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Introduction: Marilyn Gewacke and the message of the New Human
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Welcome to the award-winning Darede to Dream podcast with Debbie Dashinger, covering metaphysics, ETSs, shamanism,
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and channeling. Here you will find spiritual inspiration from today's thought leaders along with cutting edge
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insights from our interstellar brothers and sisters and ancient shamanic wisdom. Now, here's a new episode of Dare to
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Dream with your host, Debbie Dashinger. Welcome to Dare to Dream, where the extraordinary isn't fiction, it's the
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conversation. I'm Debbie Dashinger and Marilyn Gavaki is here today. Caring transmissions that
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could change how you understand your soul's mission, humanity's future, and
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the very architecture of reality. And in the next moments, you're going to discover why her connection with Zazar,
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an omni dimensional cosmic intelligence, offers urgently needed guidance for
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navigating the ascension, the new grids forming on Earth, and the golden 12th
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bridge now awakening across our planet. So stay with us because what you're
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about to hear is not theory. It's a roadmap for the new human and a direct
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energetic upgrade for your consciousness. And if you'd like to find
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out more about Marilyn or Zazar, go to theshift.ros.
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And with that, I welcome Marilyn back for the third time to dare to dream.
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It's so great to have you back. Well, I couldn't think of a better place to be than with you, Debbie,
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and your incredible light. So, I thank you for having me here with you. Yeah.
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Yeah. Perfect. What a perfect time to be doing this. We are coming out of so much
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this year. And I think we're settling so much to open up to so much newness out
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of a nine snake year into a one horse year. but energetically in ascension. So
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talk about from your position as Marilyn and as Azar coming through Marilyn, what
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have you been noticing patternwise and what do you feel is anticipatory for
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what we're about to enter into? Well, I'll tell you this.
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I have never been so excited about the ascension process on Earth. I have been
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going around to many places talking to many people and we just in fact returned
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from Brazil working with Stargate in Brazil. It was most exciting. I think
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the most exciting thing was to see hundreds of people from the southern hemisphere gathering together with such
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accelerated motivation to understand this ascension process. What I realized,
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Debbie, and and also from being in Costa Rica with Stargate is that we are no
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longer divided by nations, our color of our skins, our language. We are coming
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together as a unity community of humans across the planet with the clear
ZaZar's Transmission: why humanity is at it's turning point
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motivation to live in unity, peace, and unity consciousness and love. It's so
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exciting to see. We did not know the language in Brazil. Not many of them
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knew English, but it didn't matter because of the the way in which our hearts dance together. So thrilled to be
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together in love. And this is what I'm noticing wherever we go. People are so
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ready. And it used to be that people ask when is this ascension going to happen?
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Now it's so clear that it's happening in every room I go in. In every room Zazar
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is in, whether it's Zoom or in person, people are in the process of their own
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awakening, realizing their own missions, realizing that
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they're moving up in higher vibrational experiences.
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And this is turning on their magnificent light core within. And in that light
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core, I watch their soul gifts manifest.
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And these humans are around the entire planet. And as we are forming this unity
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consciousness, it's becoming so powerful and it's magnifying and amplifying
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so many other humans to wake up overnight. So it's such an exciting
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time. It doesn't always look like that. When we look out into the world because the world is in chaos,
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chaos precedes the new dawn and the chaos is the polarizations hitting up
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against each other, breaking into a thousand pieces. So we can take those pieces and form a coherent unity field
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and that's what I see happening all over the globe. Beautiful. In your retreats, I've been
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at your retreat and I know how powerful they are. People often experience really
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profound shifts. What is actually happening on a multi-dimensional level during these activations?
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Well, I'll tell you one thing that's happening is people are coming together
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feeling absolutely safe enough to reveal the truth of their heart.
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And we love each other. And we're dying to decrease and dissolve the separation
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that we have with each other. We've lived in separate, as Azar goes, we've lived in separation for so long on this
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planet. Separation from the cosmos, from the galactics, from source divine, from our own souls, but mostly from each
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other. So at these retreats we come together and dissolve the separation
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between us where we feel at one with each other and in that oneness we feel
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safe enough to be more of who we are. I watch people discover more of who they
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are overnight. The next day at breakfast, people are fuller, more lightfilled. And the more light they
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have, the more they give that to others in the retreat. And the light keeps building and building until we all leave
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different and more than when we came. And these retreats are just a microcosm
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Debbie of what I think it what I know is happening around the world that we are
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coming into more of our light and as we do that light begets light and so it is
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dissolving more and more of the dark without us having to put a minor's cap on and going into the dark and trying to
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solve the problems in the old ways. So these retreats that you've been at really raise everybody's light quotient
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to a brand new level and love really is
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present. I'm so curious. At the June retreat,
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Zesar had come up with an architecture that I'll call the wheels of timelines.
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And he had all of us stand in formation
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in different wheels and some of them converged and some of them broke apart and some of them came together and they
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were creating something. We could all feel it. You even had someone have a drone take aerial footage of us from
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above which was spectacular to look at to literally see timelines being
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shifted. Has Zazar mentioned or do you feel or sense that that created
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something? If so, what? Oh, I'm so glad you brought this up. First of all, true Zesar, the
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Andromedans are here very much in force. And these timeline shift circles and
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math that was put together for these circles in the sacred designs that they were were timeline devices. And so as we
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got in them and you saw the drone footage, it was beautiful to watch. But
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we actually were able to shift timelines. The Andromedans are bringing this this technology really to us on how
The Sophia Grid and the divine architecture awakening on Earth
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to shift as a group and a unity community timelines. Yes. All many of us
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had the feeling prior to the retreat that some difficult thing was going to be
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happening on Earth. some and we none of us shared that until we started doing
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the timeline devices and all of a sudden oh my gosh as soon as we finished it
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felt like whatever was going to happen became a non what Zazar calls a non-
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happenening when you jump timeline shifts you often shift out of denser
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probabilities and that's what we're doing when we gather together especially
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when we utilize some of this Andromedan technology to shift timelines, not just
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personally, which many people do. They shift timelines to a higher vibrational
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parallel life, but we're shifting timelines for the entire human race on Earth. In fact, Zesar actually showed me
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after that retreat this room where a military man was dressed in uniform and he was kind of in
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charge of some of the controls for nuclear missiles. And he in the middle
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of that got up and left the room and said, "I cannot do this anymore. It is too scary, too dangerous." And Zazar
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said many people left these stations and not to return because in their
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hearts they felt it was time for a new time where we are not threatened by
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devastation on this planet. That was just one instant of a timeline shift.
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And and there were many that went on on the planet that became non-h happenings. Of course, you can't prove this because
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they didn't happen. But we know this ourselves. We went through timeline
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shifts. And yes, it not only shifted us out of some of the densities, but Debbie, we're doing more and more of
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these timeline shifting technologies and it is shifting us into a higher
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level of vibrational light. And Zesar just said
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recently that from the beginning of this year till now, because of the work
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humans have been doing and the galactics with us, there's a separation veil that
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had been around Earth for eons, that veil is pretty much dissolved. Once that
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separation veil dissolves, we will have access not only to the wisdom that has
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been separated from ourselves, not only will we be more united with our own
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light within, but we will have corridors of connection with the angelic realm,
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with the galactic realm, with the ancient ones on our planet. So just in 9
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months we have shifted the earth to such a degree that that separation veil is no
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longer with us. Now it's up to us humans. What are we going to do when that veil is no longer
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there? What are we going to do to raise our vibration so that we begin to create
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or re remember these corridors to all that is in the multi-dimensional realm.
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And that's where we're at. such an important message and I hope
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that everybody who's listening really receives that and replays that because
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the tenor the energy that is generally out there for the light workers for the star seeds is a lot of selfwork a lot of
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collective work a lot of global work you know people are doing grid work everything a magnificent thesis that
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everybody holds and I think when many people look out on the landscape ape of
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the world. It can be really unsettling to say the least the chaos that is out
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there and to hear it's actually working. And I think sometimes when you're so up
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against something like we are are in our 3D life, we don't get to pull back and
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see the magnificence that's being created and know about that because to
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have this removed that you're referring to this cloak uh that was keeping us
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separated for so long and is now dissolved. This is beautiful. I mean,
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this is now the path to all the things I think we dream of and all the reasons our souls chose to come here to be who
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we are and do what we do. I love that. I love that. And remember, the old
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paradigm is where the chaos is. Many of us, and you're so right, it's so hard to
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look out and see all this darkness out there and chaos, but we're creating a
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new paradigm. And so many people are living in this new paradigm. And as soon
Why old identities and structures are collapsing
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as you look at the old, it's easy to get sucked back into thinking that's
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reality. But in the new paradigm, we have to remember all of us who are doing this that we are the ones creating the
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new realities. And the new realities are coming streaming in from these higher
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levels. from the white diamond light coming into our planet, from the galactic help, from the celestials, from
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our own opening our magnificent light core. And as all this is happening, we
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are the ones creating the new realities. When you look out there, it's still the old reality. We can't get caught in that
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if we're the creators of the new reality. And that's what's
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happening now. We now have an enormous opportunity to be the co-creators of
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what Zesar says is the 12th bridge to a brand new civilization on Earth that
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will never dissolve itself in chaos.
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Amen. Well, a quick pause, my friends, because when we come back, we're going to be doing channeling with Zazar, my
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dear sweet friend. And I want to invite you a little deeper into this work. I've got something special for you. For those
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of you who are wondering what your galactic ancestry is, where you're from in the stars, I've got a free star seed
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Everything's going to be in the show notes, all the links. And um yeah, this
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month is about suffering, you know. So I get the downloads of of what it's going to be and it's been amazing ever since I
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announced suffering. How many people have been coming forward and saying I need to be there. So good. Let's release
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that so we don't have to carry it into next year. The next piece that is really
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Finally, uh, Conscious Life Expo is coming up February 20 through the 23rd
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in Los Angeles. It's their 24th annual year. They have over 8,000 people come
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through the doors, tons of vendors, three floors. We take over the hotel. It's amazing. Marilyn is going to be
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there speaking and channeling. I'm going to be there speaking, moderating. So, join us. It's beautiful event.
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Absolutely. And we'd love to say hi to you in person. Debbie.com.
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I will bring back Marilyn. And uh is now a good time for us to connect with our
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dear friend Zesar. Beautiful.
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Well, first of all, I have to say to you, Debbie,
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you know, I talked so much about this magnificent light core that is being
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released finally in all the humans. And in this releasing, you are coming
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home to the truth of who you are. And I have to say to you, Debbie,
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your magnificent light gore is like a sun. It is shining so bright
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and as a result you realize all of the light that you are moves out into the
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world in so many ways of everything you do. I have to just say this to you.
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After all, I'm talking to you as well as many others. But your light is changing
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the world and you should know this. And so all of those who are finding
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their light out there, it's very important for you to know that as you unleash this magnificent light core,
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no matter what is happening in the world, it is indeed finding its way out into unity consciousness of the humans,
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changing the field of what you know as your earth.
Light codes returning from ancient civilizations
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As Marilyn said, the veil of separation is now pretty much gone around your
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planet. It is time now for you to make new inroads to the corridors that have
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been deprived because of the separation of Earth, even from the cosmos, even
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from divine source. It is time to first go within and heal the separation that
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has been within you. So much is happening in the world now. You are in
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the midst of creating a 12th bridge. What is the golden 12th bridge? Well,
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know this. There are 11 civilizations, ancient advanced civilizations on your
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planet, all who had galactic help. These ancient advanced civilizations all
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dissolved for some reason or another. I'm talking ones like Atlantis and
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Lamuria and Condom Kamura and Hyperoreia. They all at some point
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dissolved. But those light codes from the wisdom of those 11 civilizations
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are rising up now at this time because humans consciousness
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is creating a light that triggers the light codes from these ancient advanced
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civilizations. Many of them knew of this time that is
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now. Knowing the light codes that were buried are now coming alive to bring the
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wisdom they understood all together into one holy hole.
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Now you have heard of these comets that are coming through your solar system.
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Perhaps you have heard of three Atlas. I want to tell you something about them.
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They are messengers from afar. No matter what your scientists say about
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them. They are beautiful. You might say crafted messengers coming through. Oh
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yes. Do they look like they might be stone? But this is the creation of very
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advanced cultures who know about this time of earth. Three Atlantis is coming
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through. talk to your son so much when it was behind your son causing so much
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outburst you might see from the sun coronal outburst to your earth which is
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why you had so many beautiful lights two weeks ago or so and so it was aligning
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with your sun to help it align more with earth and now as it is coming close to
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earth very much now it is releasing light codes from every
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galactic civilization that has come to earth in the past and now to help earth
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rise into the 12th bridge creation. These light codes are coming to earth
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now. And so as you clear your field, you will be a receptor of these light codes
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of information that are crucial for the ascension on your planet. And
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this three eye atlas is also sending light codes from the divine feminine
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template of purity. And so it is sending this to earth
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because I tell you Debbie all these 11 civilizations that
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dissolved dissolved because the divine feminine became misaligned,
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unbalanced. And so this beautiful threeey atlas as
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you call it coming through is bringing light codes of the pure divine feminine
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template that lives in the heavens. So this is very important and there is
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another comment coming your way. The abbreviation you call BB. BB is coming
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with re remembrances codes to help you remember that you have
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chosen to come now to be part of building this new 12th bridge. All this
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new 12th bridge is is a bridge to the new dawn which many of you talk about as
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the new dawn, the new civilization on earth moving into the fifth dimension.
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And so light codes are being released, Debbie, from all these ancient
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civilizations. The monuments that still lay testimony to their existence are
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coming alive with these light codes all around Earth.
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And so this is a grand time to do the work necessary
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to dissolve your own densities. to begin to realize you are one of the
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co-creators of this bridge. And as you allow your light to shine, you take a
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footprint on the bridge and that is beginning to build this beautiful
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corridor to Earth's human civilization on your planet.
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These comments coming through are messengers from afar. This is a grand time. Many of your indigenous peoples
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know this and the galactics are gathering. Do you know that every galactic that has come
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to earth to help her and to help the human race over eons of history on your
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planet, every galactic one is coming to help this
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process of ascension on earth. It is so exciting. I want to say if humans really
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could know how exciting this time is and shed their vision of what they think is
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going on when they look outside. But to feel in their heart something is percolating
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that percolation and follow their intuition
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to bring them to some new vibration of consciousness
Comet activations: what cosmic messengers are triggering
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to become aware every moment of what their vibrational experience is and
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begin to move into the higher light. There is so much
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to talk about in terms of the light technology that is coming and the light codes coming into earth.
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Listen, I want to say this. There is something else happening to your planet. There is this beautiful
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Sophia's grid. Debbie, there is a Sophia grid. Sophia
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represents the highest purest divine feminine. It is that energy coming to
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your planet, showering your planet. Now there are grids being established all
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around your planet. We call it the Sophia grid, bringing closer to the
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human. The ingredients, the light technology of the divine
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feminine to be felt in the heart to bring compassion and passion and
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fierceness and kindness and the knowing that humans are ready to begin to live
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in peace and joy as a whole unit building a holy
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for the entire human place. This is happening on your planet. And
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speaking of the galactics, the Andromedans are so close at hand. Now,
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every single retreat we go to, we were just at a beautiful retreat with the
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Stargate organization in Brazil and the Andromedan craft were seen. We were at
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another retreat in North Carolina and the humans there were able to get a
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perfect photo of the Andromedan craft over the meditation hall. They are
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coming closer. What do they bring? They bring the ability to make these timeline
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jumps to help accelerate. People often ask me, "How can this be
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happening? It seems like it would take forever." But you are getting help with
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how to make these timelines shift so you move into a higher vibrational space
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which opens up your soul sensory modalities to be able to create brand
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new realities of healing of science of music of sound. So much is at hand and
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so many humans are already doing this. This is why the separation veil has
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dissolved. And then and then
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one of the most exciting things that is happening to earth at this time,
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there is a planet on the other side of your Milky Way.
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It is where what we call the cosmic humans live.
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The cosmic humans are humans just like you, but who never had to go through the
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destruction that the human race on earth has gone through. And they are living in
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the higher fifthdimensional plains. They have now come to earth
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to help the human race succeed in building this golden 12
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bridge to the brand new civilization on earth. They have come to help you. And I
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tell you this, there is nothing that can feel more incredible than to be loved by another
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human who has overcome all the separation
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and only brings the purity of love from the human heart.
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The thing about humans that is so delicious and luscious and beautiful
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is your human heart. For many galactics are here to study the
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human heart. Because as you have gone through so much
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darkness and destruction, it is your heart that has survived.
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It is that heart of yours that reaches out when somebody needs help.
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It is the heart that has not lost the ability to love even when there has been
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heartbreak. The heart reaches out to feed another, to love another, to have
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peace with another. Even in the chaos, your human heart is your salvation. And
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many galactics are here because they are puzzled that a heart as such as the
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human heart has survived everything it has survived. So think about it. If your
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human heart is still so full of luscious love,
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think what will happen when it is not pulled down into the darkness, but only
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lives in a high vibration of the fifth dimension. You will become like the cosmic humans
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who are here now to age your way. And so there are so many higher ones.
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The celestials are so here. There is a light circle around your planet with all
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of these higher beings. But it is up to the humans always cannot
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take your free will. It is your free will that will decide that the separation veil is gone. How to make use
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of that? How to bring yourself out of your own separation? how to bring your
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consciousness to a higher level. So you begin to open the corridors to the
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multi-dimensional realms. What you think of reality is so small compared to all
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the realities that are right there with you. As you open up these soul sensory
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modalities, you will see into the invisible. You will hear the music of
The 12th Golden Bridge and Earth’s next civilization
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the higher realms. You will feel the heart healing
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that will heal everything that ails your earth and humans. This is the time you
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are in. You are gathering such interest
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from the galactics. I say to Marilyn sometimes, you know, if the humans could
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see what they are really doing and all gathered together to be as interested in
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each other as the galactics are in you, ascension would happen overnight.
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All of you begin to realize that you are not alone.
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You have many higher beings with you. You have higher incarnations of your own
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coming to life to send you essences to help this mission you are on. But most
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importantly, you are not alone with each other. And as you begin to
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form these unity communities, they will become so powerful building the grid of
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human consciousness across the globe. And then as the Sophia energies
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move through the grid, you would see
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the earth change in such highways
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that you will forget
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the densities. you will forget the densities. So
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sometimes when I come through the Maryland's throat, it's a lot of energy.
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So as this happens
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on your earth plane, instead of forgetting the marvelous,
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magnificent you are, you will forget the densities and darkness
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and begin to only know the lighted way
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and realize
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that these comets coming through the galactics here, the Andromedans, the
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cosmic humans, the ancient ones rising up,
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coming alive with the light wisdom. All of this is happening in the now.
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But most importantly, find that magnificent light
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and it will be a road map for the connections to all that is
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happening on earth. What do you think of this Debbie? So beautiful. just the marinade in that
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is very exciting and bravo for tying together that enormous buffet of
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information in the way that you did. I loved it. And I do have questions. I'm
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really curious when you talk Zesar about ancient civilizations
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being released again, coming back online. Who specifically are the ancient
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civilizations? Who and what are they? So
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they are the Atlantanss, the Lamurans, the beautiful condom kamar which few
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know about. Condom kamora was a grand civilization before Atlantis before
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Lamaria that is now in the ocean on the dip of India.
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It sunk with Atlantis and Lamuria but it was a grand civilization of high
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priestess knowledge. The temples are still alive
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underneath the ocean coming alive even more now. Then there's the hyperoreia
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who were here millions of years ago, the light body ones who still left such an
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imprint in the human genome. There are of course the Egyptians
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and the ones who built Stonehenge. There are those who built New Graange
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and Stargate and Zesar are going to New Graange in May to further open these
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light codes. New Graange in Ireland holds
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the ancient knowledge before the Druids and the magic the magic of the wizardry
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that was here eons ago. Then there is
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Sumeriia. And long before you know the story of the Sumerianss, there was a grand
37:11
culture again of high priestesses who were able to bring this Sofia
37:19
energy into Earth that time. And then there's Puma Punka
37:26
who sat near Lake Tirikaka in South America
37:34
who brought the mama Macho Puchu the earth mother into being.
37:41
And then there is the serpent mounds. The serpent mounds
37:47
that can be found in your country, Debbie, in the state of Ohio, really
37:54
were evidence of the grand dragons and the serpents and the high priestesses
37:59
who built the mounds across the earth to be corridors for what is happening now.
38:07
And then there's Kobe, which is in Turkey, which is being uncovered as we speak. And this great
38:15
civilization came to be
38:20
but really was suppressing the divine feminine so much that the high priestess
38:26
has learned to be invisible and to this day they are still there but
38:32
invisible. I mean the history of your earth is so amazing. What all these
38:38
cultures knew but got buried by their own dissolution
38:44
because of the darkness they came to be and because of the divine feminine disalignment.
How chaos signals the end of the old timeline
38:52
So those are a few so sorry for this.
38:59
I will try to speak more softly. Those were but a few civilizations
39:07
but 11 of the most important ones. There are others. There are also transmission
39:13
stations across the earth that are hold great
39:19
monuments like Machop Pici who hold great monuments
39:25
that are transmission stations for these light codes and for the information and
39:31
wisdom that laid buried that are now coming alive and they are transmitting
39:37
this information around the world now. So much happening on your planet. But
39:44
these ancient civilizations were buried and many of you had lives,
39:53
ancient incarnations in these civilizations. So as I mentioned, some
39:58
of them you may perk up to say, "Yes, that feels familiar." You may hold the
40:04
receptor sites to hold these light codes that are coming in with the wisdom of
40:09
these ancient advanced civilizations. Not so advanced that they made it,
40:16
but advanced in many of their own ways. Many of them like the Egyptians knew so
40:23
much about communicating with the Galactics and Stonehenge. And so much of this information is being uncovered now.
40:31
And this will help the humans make their transition.
40:37
You know, it's really beautiful. And a lot of what you're saying, it's incredible how it coincides also with
40:45
the shamanic prophecies uh from high in the Andes, very ancient, called the Patchakudi, a time of change. Every 500
40:53
years, another epoch. And right now, we're in it. And one of the many things the shamans of old said that when this
41:00
time that we're living in now comes, it will finally once again be the rise of
41:06
the divine feminine. So I love that and I love this name of course Sophia code
41:11
for so many reasons. Um, how does understanding Sophia code, the
41:18
rising divine feminine planetary architecture change the way each of us
41:24
as people see ourselves, our power, our purpose? How does that influence us?
41:32
So understand something. You have had humans who have been
41:41
the purification manifested version of the divine feminine like your mother Mary, like
41:48
Isis, Quan Yin, Mary Magdalene, all of them had the purest template downloaded
41:59
as Huitt. Just like your Jesus had the Christ consciousness downloaded,
42:06
these templates live, you might say, in an interdimensional place close to divine source. The
42:13
template of the divine feminine because your planet got so disaligned
42:20
with it. This template is now closer to earth coming in with lighted information
42:28
and that lighted information is what we call the Sophia. That is just a way to short circuit a
42:37
complicated process. The Sophia is coming in energetically to your planet.
42:44
Humans are at a place where they will be able to download and integrate the
42:52
Sophia principles of the divine feminine to be able to take control of their own
43:00
hearted movement through their intuitive knowing creating new road maps for new
43:06
realities of this 12bridge civilization.
43:11
And so when this divine feminine comes to be, there is much strength that each
43:19
human will feel. Strength of heart, strength of compassion, strength with
43:25
passion, strength with fierceness to become
43:32
the peace and unity and joy and love
43:38
that humans have had. It is your birthright to be
43:44
this. And of course then the divine masculine moves with the divine feminine
43:52
to have a perfect integrated human being. But because your planet has been
43:58
disaled now the Sophia template is close at
44:04
hand. You might say, Debbie, it is showering earth with pure divine
44:11
feminine energetics for humans to soak up through their
44:18
heart. to learn once again what alignment and balance is to bring about
44:26
a united human race
44:33
where all are well including the earth herself.
44:42
Yes, because she is a goddess as well. A very light. Yes, she is. She is a very high
44:49
celestial being volunteered to be Earth. All planets are life beings.
44:57
Once humans begin to realize your planet is a life being, your moon is a
45:02
beautiful life being, how you will treat this earth will
45:08
change. But first you must learn to treat the life beings that you do know are beings
45:15
like each other. and the animals and the trees once you begin to treat them
45:24
with the consciousness of the divine feminine. Watch what happens.
Human hearts as multidimensional portals
45:31
Watch what happens. You know, earlier when you were talking about the comets, you mentioned the sun and you also
45:38
mentioned somewhat the flares and the codes and it's very interesting. I don't know why I've become so fascinated with
45:45
the sun, but I have. And somebody said, "Learn the history of the sun." And I
45:50
thought, well, I'm a researcher at heart. I'm a journalist. Absolutely. So, I started to deep dive. And when I was
45:57
deep diving into the literal history of the sun, then things started coming up
46:02
that were shamanic in nature and how the indigenous have always viewed the sun. Also, galactic information started
46:11
coming up from different cosmic cultures. And I would love you, Zazar, to address that. The sun, specifically
46:19
the flares, the codes, and the sun is a portal, a literal portal to travel
46:26
through, and anything else I may not know about. Can you share factoids and
46:32
fascinating information about the sun we live under, but also has its own role
46:38
and purpose in us in what we're doing, but it sounds like in other cosmic
46:44
cultures as well. So it is so interesting Debbie that
46:52
I am so happy to hear you are so interested in the sun because without
46:58
the sun you do not exist. The sun is what brings life. The sun is what brings
47:07
light. You might say the sun is a master communicator with all the stars of the
47:14
universe. The sun is a master communicator with source itself. And so
47:21
the great galactic sun of your Milky Way, as you call it, communicates with
47:27
your son, bringing in corridors of information. And your son is the grand
47:34
communicator for the Earth and all of her planets and moons. And so the sun is the
47:42
grand communicator to the earth, continuing to shine light upon the
47:49
earth, especially the human consciousness to begin
47:54
to create the awakening that is happening now. When this grade three
48:01
atlas went on the other side of the sun as it traveled close to your solar
48:07
system, it was communicating with the sun. Everything goes through your sun.
48:13
Nothing that comes into your solar system does not go through your sun. You might say it is the great teleport for
48:21
everything here. And so it's a great communication station. The great comet
48:28
coming through was communicating with the sun. In its communication,
48:33
the sun was sending flares. In this instance, this is not true of all the flares, but in this instance, the sun
48:41
was sending flares of information to Earth, making known that the comet was going to
48:49
come close to Earth, sending these light codes to Earth to help accelerate the
48:55
ascension process. So the sun was sending flares to earth
49:02
readying earth almost creating a field for earth to receive what this long
49:09
messenger from long many many places away.
49:15
I say places because it's not about miles. It's about where this craft comes
49:21
from to bring these light codes to earth through the sun.
49:26
Now, I don't know if you noticed, but the sun created these flares which
49:32
created your northern lights which went way into the southern part of your world. Many of these lights were the
49:40
color red. Now, I want you to think about it. Much
49:46
of the time they are blue and green. There are many, many photographs of these northern lights two weeks ago and
49:53
they were red. What was red? Red is the divine feminine color. It was the Sophia
50:01
codes coming into earth. I'm telling you, it is so amazing what is happening
50:08
to your earth right now. But the sun communicates to earth and to the m moon
50:15
and the moon the light that the sun sheds on the moon tells the moon how to
50:20
interact with what? The waters of your planet. The moon knows how to interpret
50:26
the sun's code for the very waters of your planet. So when you go into the waters of your earth, you are
50:33
essentially being downloaded with sun codes going through the moon codes. It
50:39
is so delightful to know these things. So your sun also receives information
50:47
from many stars that have galactic
50:55
universal knowings and wisdoms for your planet at
51:01
this time. And so it is always delivering data codes and wisdom codes. It is up to
51:10
the humans though to build these fields within you that can begin to absorb such
51:16
highlight information. You are so used to absorbing the dark information,
51:21
turning on your TVs and news for what the chaos is. You have to begin to close
51:27
those circuitries out so you can begin to establish the circuitries to first of
51:33
all bring in the amazing amount of wisdom that your son is beholding for
51:39
you at this time. Debbie, thank you. That was wonderful. when
51:47
you're talking about light codes and the codes being showered on us and you mentioned this as well with the two
51:55
comets BB and threei Atlas and
52:01
so two questions how can we work with these codes because you mention about us
52:08
assimilating them and that they're here to assist us but also to affect Earth's
52:14
timeline. What can we do to receive to
52:19
open up to utilize these? Let me see this. It is a vibrational
52:27
experience. So beautiful Debbie,
52:33
when you came to the retreat and felt such love, you might say, "What am I to do with
52:40
this love?" But you did not say that. What you did is you took it in on a
52:46
vibrational level and it you allowed it to move you to
52:52
your next venture. This is sort of what vibrational living is about.
What the Masters want us to know about ascension
52:59
It is about being able to consciously say there are light codes coming in from
53:05
the sun, from the comets, from the universe in its white diamond light that
53:11
is showering earth now because of its direct alignment with the galactic sun.
53:17
So much information coming in. If you're tuning in to Atlas and there are light
53:22
codes coming in from the galactics who have worked with Earth before in these ancient civilization,
53:29
all you have to do is tune into that. So you say, "I am ready to be a receiver of
53:35
the light codes that will move Earth to the next timeline shift. You have to
53:42
know no more. If you try to know more, you're in the old brain thinking. And
53:48
there is nothing in the old brain that has a clue about any of this. But if you
53:53
begin to take this in on a vibrational simply opening to the vibrations and
54:00
then as you feel the vibrations penetrate your soul, your heart, your
54:06
body, quieting the mind, you will find that
54:12
these very frequencies will begin to move you in ways
54:19
that you might not even connect to. The day that you sat and you took the light
54:25
codes in or the day you sat on top of a mountain and were in the most
54:31
revelational state of being and you simply took that high vibrational state
54:37
with you off the mountain to walk back in your world emanating those
54:43
vibrations. Not necessarily saying what do I do with them but saying how do I be
54:51
with them and that is how this higher vibrational living is and so when these
54:57
light codes come in it is a grand question that you ask I would say to you
55:03
first of all be someone who says I am ready to download these codes
55:10
I don't have to know what that means but I will stay in tune vibrationally
55:17
with my body, my mind, my heart and my soul. And I will be aware of how
55:24
vibrationally I begin to feel new wisdoms, new
55:31
intuitives. And I will not be afraid to follow my
55:37
intuition that guides me and sets new road mapaps for my own ascension
55:43
journey. And it will come in more mysterious ways that you will come to
55:49
know as you follow the vibrational intuitions in your life. Many of you who
55:56
are listening, I know already do that. This is nothing that you will know like
56:02
a textbook. It will come in as a vibration. It will settle in and it will
56:08
start to move out of you. I say this to you as these light codes come in. They
56:15
will create what I call etheric enzymes.
56:20
And these etheric enzymes are how they are digested. And then as a human who is
56:27
digesting these high frequency codes, you will begin to emanate these codes to
56:34
fellow humans. And they will have these etheric enzymes
56:40
that will be able to digest more and more of the information that is coming in. Not just from these light codes or
56:47
from me or from some of the other galactic beings or your teachers on your planet, but you will be able to digest,
56:56
download, and live in these vibrations. And these vibrations will begin to make
57:05
and create the new realities that are will be coming to be as you cross the 12
57:11
bridge. When you say that the human heart serves
57:18
as a multi-dimensional portal for communication with cosmic intelligences like yourself, you know, one of the
57:25
things I've heard from you and many other extraterrestrial beings, benevolent beings, is the admiration of
57:33
the human capacity to love, is our resilience. And I always think, well, if
57:41
we were born with emotions, it can't be to suppress them. That
57:46
doesn't make sense. So, if we were born with this beautiful buffet of emotions,
57:51
we're here to not wallow in them or get stuck or in a story, of course, but
57:56
instead to express, to feel, to emote. And so I wonder
58:02
for people because I do think emotions are also difficult for humans even
58:08
though we've been blessed with them. How do we navigate emotions? What is your
58:14
recommendation for us in a really healthy manner but
58:19
also in a manner that can transmute many of them, alchemize them into something
58:25
golden and much better. So I would say this, you have a couple
58:30
hours. I do. So this is probably one of the most
58:37
important questions for your human race
58:42
because as human dynamics go, it seems to me that many of your human dynamics
58:49
seem to get into very dense human emotions,
58:55
judgments, acceptance themes, anger, rage,
59:02
disappointment, ment hurt, you know, the ones that are denser
59:08
because humans don't trust each other, don't feel safe, and feel separated.
59:14
And this has created what I call the denser heart movement.
59:20
There is a way to begin to move out of this. Here is the thing. Often times
59:27
people will begin to hold love and to hold peace and to hold joy and then they
59:33
sneak one eye open to see if it's had an effect. And if one person approaches
59:38
them that is cranky or crabby or irritating, they say it doesn't work.
Navigating the new frequencies and preparing the light body
59:43
This higher vibrational heart stuff. And I say to you, if you are the ones
59:49
bringing the new higher heart stuff into the world, you have to be prepared.
59:54
There are many in the old paradigm who will try to fight this in the old way in
1:00:00
the old programs in the old mo matrix. You are here first of all to create
1:00:05
these new realities and you can only create them by the high heart.
1:00:12
Here is what has to happen. There has to be enough humans who are willing to sit
1:00:18
in the high heart of love no matter what happens around them. who are willing to
1:00:23
sit in totality of peace no matter what happens around them. Realizing that
1:00:30
peace and love and joy and kindness and compassion and passion
1:00:38
are so powerful, they will move into the world and they will disintegrate those
1:00:45
lower feelings. Be careful how much you get involved in gossip and judgment
1:00:51
because all of those things is the law of resonance. If you judge and gossip, it will come back at you a thousand
1:00:57
times. This is the law of resonance. But you have to learn that you are willing
1:01:05
to give up human drama, trauma dynamics
1:01:11
to move into a higher place, even if it's with yourself.
1:01:16
to be willing to sit with the beauty of loving everyone, wishing well for
1:01:25
everyone, having no competitors to anyone, but simply sitting in this place
1:01:33
and having the belief that that light is so much more powerful.
1:01:40
You haven't seen that yet because you slip back down when you open your eye in
1:01:45
the meditation of love and you see the chaos. You drop down with it because of
1:01:51
the circuitry of survival. But it is time to make the new circuitry
1:01:57
of the heart love. And in this new circuitry, you will be able to stay in these vibrational states just a little
1:02:04
bit longer. And in those states, even in the grocery
1:02:09
store, you will begin to affect the food and the other humans who are in the store. The problem is you may never see
1:02:18
its effect at the beginning. But that is the faith of knowing absolutely that the
1:02:25
heart full of love is more real, more important, more significant than the
1:02:31
heart full of hate. And you have to begin to believe that you want to
1:02:36
create. Me remember remember you are creating this new reality. It isn't here
1:02:42
already. You are the co-creators of the new reality of the high heart. In order
1:02:48
to do that, you have to decide that you may have to get rid of toxic relationships. That you have to get out
1:02:55
of human dynamics and dramas and begin to find those humans who want to go with
1:03:02
you in creating the pathway for the new human community
1:03:08
where separation is no longer and yet individual magnificence is cherished and
1:03:15
shared. This is the place you are going.
1:03:20
But this is a hard path. And the question is so complex. Because as soon
1:03:26
as many of you rise into these higher feelings, something happens from the old paradigm
1:03:33
you live in to drag you down. And then you become part of what I call the
1:03:39
ultimate weaving process of weaving through the densities back up to this
1:03:44
foundation you are building the field of light. And in that field of light you
1:03:50
will learn much about light technology which is how to utilize the heart to
1:03:56
pave the new pathways to the new ascended times.
1:04:03
We are preparing and this is my last question for you dear Zesar. As we are
1:04:10
preparing for preparing our light body for the civilization emerging on earth right
1:04:17
now, what would you say is the single most important daily practice? What do you want to leave us with?
1:04:28
The first thing to do when you get up in the morning
1:04:33
is to breathe your light. The second thing you want to do when you
1:04:40
are breathing your light, freeing it, each breath you take,
1:04:47
breathing in the light of the universe that is surrounding you. So now
1:04:53
and breathing out your own light to dance with that light that surrounds you. So you become a figure eight of the
1:05:01
lighted way is then to consciously take that light
1:05:07
and become love and then to breathe that love
1:05:15
into the world. Knowing that in breathing that love into
1:05:21
the world, you have just become a co-creator of the new reality of the golden 12
1:05:29
bridge. This may sound easy,
1:05:34
but actually it is one of the hardest things for humans to believe in
1:05:41
and to manifest on earth. If 10 million people on your planet woke
1:05:49
up tomorrow morning breathing their light in the figure 8 with universal
1:05:56
source and their own magnificent light core into such a powerful breath that it
1:06:04
moved love around the planet.
1:06:12
you would know the answer to every question.
ZaZar’s closing guidance for humanity’s awakening
1:06:17
Your heart beats. I love you, Zesar. Thank you so much.
1:06:25
And I want to say one last thing if I may, beautiful Dabby. You ask about the sun. That is such a
1:06:32
huge important question. For as the light is indeed raising on
1:06:40
your earth, it's also light communicating with the
1:06:46
light of your sun. Your son takes the light of human
1:06:52
consciousness that is awakening and lassos that light
1:06:59
into your galaxy, portelling the time to come on Earth.
1:07:08
As it lassos the light of your Earth into the galaxy,
1:07:14
it begins to pick up the light of many other planets who have already made
1:07:19
their transition into the higher dimensions. But it also begins to move
1:07:25
planets who are in a denser form.
1:07:30
As earth meets more and more its highlight quotient going through the
1:07:36
sun, the sun communicates with the galactic sun
1:07:42
that the light is shining bright from the human species on earth. This will
1:07:50
create a chain reaction to all the stars in your galaxy
1:07:55
that will come into such fruited light. It will cause your whole galaxy to jump
1:08:01
a timeline shift and in your galaxy shifting to a new
1:08:06
time will have effects on many many thousands of galaxy in your universe
1:08:14
and your universe will raise its light to the point Debbie that it will become
1:08:20
a co-creator with source of a brand new universe
1:08:26
that will only house all the light you have worked so hard to become.
1:08:34
It will house thousands and millions of galaxies in this new universe
1:08:40
that will already be to this lighted place that your universe is working so hard to
1:08:49
manifest. So you see your earth is so important not just to you
1:08:59
but to so many other beings in your galaxy and to so many other alive
1:09:05
galaxies in your universe so that your universe becomes a
1:09:10
co-creator of such an incredible lighted universe
1:09:17
and this is absolutely Absolutely fantastical
1:09:23
and it is happening now.
1:09:33
Thank you. That was incredibly comprehensive for the amount of time we
1:09:38
had. And I know I feel incredibly shifted.
1:09:44
Like your website, the shift.rocks. I feel very shifted from when we first got
1:09:49
on together. And I just want to thank you for the great work you do for all of
1:09:55
us showing up at this unprecedented time to help guide us, to give us wisdom, to
1:10:02
show us perspectives we would not have and also to piece the pe the puzzle
1:10:09
somewhat together for us. Thank you for all you do and be. You are so loved, so
1:10:15
appreciated. And I will say the same to you, Debbie.
1:10:20
I love you so, so much. Mahow.
1:10:37
Quite beautiful. Yeah, quite amazing. I feel like I was just in some alternative
1:10:45
portal or something. You were. I think we all were. That was really powerful energy, too.
1:10:53
It must have been because I felt his voice, the energy it had to it, which made me cough, but was so um
1:11:03
filled with light. And I think some of that had to do with
1:11:10
the person doing this podcast. Oh, this is such a love fest. Thank you.
1:11:17
And I'm so curious. And funny enough, by the way, my throat also I was I was
1:11:22
embibing every few minutes, too. I have quite a little whatever that was maybe
1:11:28
was bringing a lot up for all of us. It's great to get it out. Uh, you Diane,
1:11:34
Jen, Zazar, what is next? I feel like you're on the big rockar tour at this
1:11:42
point. Where are all the places and spaces you're going to be? Where can people find you?
1:11:47
Well, we'll be at the expo. We're excited about that. A week later, we'll be in Sedona doing a grand retreat there
1:11:55
with the Deazar. We're really excited by that. We'll be doing our June summer
1:12:00
retreat this year actually um five miles from the sanctuary at a Sufi retreat
1:12:07
we're renting. So it that's an exciting place to be in June. Then with Stargate,
1:12:14
we're going to New Graange in May and that'll be great because we're
1:12:20
actually going to go to the site New Graange and do some light code um
1:12:26
downloads. Then we'll be going to Costa Rica with Stargate and
1:12:33
what uh Sylvania in September with Stargate. I'll be in Glastonbury at the
1:12:38
end of August. You'll be there, too. So any anything
1:12:43
us on live? Oh yes. And we'll be doing so much online, Debbie. We we have Zooms once a
1:12:49
month with Zazar where you can come on in and on Wednesday nights and just ask him all kinds of questions. Those are
1:12:56
fun. He also does a master classroom that he'll be continuing to do with such
1:13:02
amazing information coming in. And we're also going to be on Portal to
1:13:07
Ascension. Is it that this Saturday, I think? Oh, Portal to Ascension this Saturday with Neil. I'm so excited with
1:13:15
I'm going to be doing a lot of work with Neil now. Um, we'll be doing that event
1:13:20
Saturday afternoon. Saturday night we'll be on Peace Tribe with Mary Rodwell and
1:13:26
a couple of other folks. So, I'm I'm really excited by that. There's some more podcasts coming up this month. So,
1:13:34
um, we're flying high right now. Yeah. I mean, it's needed. I'm I see
1:13:40
this going on right now with folks doing exceptional work and at the same time so
1:13:46
many people are waking up and hungry and for these beautiful outlets to connect
1:13:51
with and align with it makes sense to me in my space and um yeah I'm just
1:13:59
enormously grateful I get to play with you a bunch this year and um what is
1:14:05
your next dream? So this is a lot for humanity and this is a lot with Zazar
1:14:10
and the sanctuary and the team and all of it. What are your personal dreams? Is
1:14:15
there anything you have not yet created? Any place you want to go do be? Well,
1:14:21
here's one of my dreams that every time we do a retreat, it's at a
1:14:28
higher level. People are more ready. People who come seem to be really ready.
1:14:36
One of my dreams is to have a retreat where everybody there's no resistance.
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There's total belief. There's total knowing and an incredible desire to move
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right into the unity community and build. See, I don't think we know
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yet what we can create as a unity community. I feel like there will be a
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point where we will gather enough people to create this unity community. First of
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all, a craft will come land physically. We'll all take a ride. That to me seems
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like it's going to happen. But more importantly, I am curious
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gathering 50 to 100, 150, 200, I don't care people that we work together for a
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week or two weeks building this community.
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And I want to know what we can create for the earth when we're in a community
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of new humans who have discarded all the old dynamics, all the old dramas. Nobody
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brings personality or ego and we're all together in a space bringing our new
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human hearts deciding to create something that has never been created. And we won't know what that is until we
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do it. But I know we'll create a field where the galactics will be there. Debbie, in North Carolina, we have this
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picture of the Andromedan craft as clear as can be above the hall. I mean, and many people are seeing
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craft materialize all over the globe now. But they are coming closer as we
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are awakening. So I'm also curious when we gather such a group and we're doing
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it as we create this field of non-separation
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and the galactics manifest with us in the same space
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what then the humans and the galactics will cocreate for the earth.
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I love and so that is one of my dreams and I feel like it's very close at hand.
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Thank you. Thank you so much. And for folks who listen to that beautiful plethora of the many many things you can
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get engaged in all of them some of them just be sure to go to Marilyn's website
1:17:13
theshift.ros rocks and you can follow the events. Get on her newsletter and you'll find out
1:17:20
about these. Um, that's where you find out most of what what we're all doing.
1:17:26
We'll be there together at Conscious Life Expo. Join us debashinger.com
1:17:33
and we'll be together in Glastonbury and the New Living Expo in April. That's
1:17:38
Oh, yes. I forgot about that. We're doing a New Living Expo in April and after that we're doing a a week event in
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Sacramento. It just goes on. Yeah. It's your energy is amazing to me.
1:17:52
It's amazing. Well, you know, this is the time, Debbie. This is the time. I'm so dedicated. I feel fortunate and blessed
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to be in my mission. If I had a gift to give to everybody on earth, it would be
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able to truly know what the mission is and to be solidly in it manifesting the
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vibrations of such. It is such a gift. I am blessed to be with Zazar. I've been
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with him since a child. So, I feel lucky to be able to be a conduit for such a
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wise being. And along the way, he's helped me be a little more wise.
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Folks, I end today's show with this reminder. When we remember that we are not separate from the cosmos, but woven
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through it, the path ahead becomes clear. The awakening is not something we
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chase. It is something we allow. It is something we already are.
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Next week on the podcast. Amen. Amen. And that was great, Debbie. See,
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you are a synthesizer. You are a great synthesizer.
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Next week, I'll be synthesizing with Dr. Diane Hennessy Powell. She's a psychiatrist. She's a neuroscientist,
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and you might know her. She's very famous for being the scientist on the
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telepathy tapes. So, her studies with autism, psychic powers, and telepathy.
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Wow. I have to tell you, I have pages of questions that somehow I'm going to have
1:19:30
to callull down and then of course I'll throw them out and just be with her. But I am very excited because I know this is
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also part of the new human where we move to where these artistic beautiful beings
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already live in the telepathy world in the knowing everything. This has been
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1:19:56
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