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6:45 Dr. Desiree and myself are very pleased to be on your program as a beacon of light to so many thousands around the country yeah it's a
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nice introduction you gave as you know we're social scientists we work behind the scenes with the top government
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specialists on the power of the mind dealing with subjects from the paranormal to the parasitical we've also
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worked with the astronauts who conducted experiments in other space without any
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technology showing us the power of the mind can go faster than the speed of light so to speak and we published many
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of our books in different languages throughout the world so we represent really a blueprint for a positive future
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great changes that we must understand as part of this great transformational process and you're right and saying like
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people are waking up things are changing on the planet that there seems to be a lot of awareness and I think that's
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perfect because actually the keys Davina that dr. Jack wrote in 1973 from a
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unique experience he had said that you know we're in this period of being given
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information that will allow us to literally graduate to have cosmic contact name of your program is called
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infringer I like to think of the princess the space time overlap with other civilizations so we're at a
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gateway of new information coming out through government disclosure coming out for new documentaries and coming on from
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new stories that we've been able to bring together from other cultures throughout the world that the star
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nations the higher intelligence in the traditional sense the higher angelic dimension is becoming more
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scientifically visible Wow so when you say scientifically visible or you mean
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and they're like what we're seeing in the quantum realm is as far as the light particles and stuff go are you talking
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about something entirely different well every all of the above so to speak but
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we were just recently on a UFO cruise and you know we've also many times gone to
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a gathering called contact in the desert in Southern California they do these night viewing goggles it's usually green
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in color it's amazing how many people go out at night and see these things can even capture it sometimes on their cell
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phone so there's everything from UFOs being seen by night viewing goggles to people literally having experiences in
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their you know while driving a car and or in their bedrooms or meditating so all this is kind of coming together now
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and scientists are starting to be able to pick up on this and they realize how it works more and more because of the
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science of quantum physics which tells us you know we're all entangled yeah
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yeah for sure I believe that totally - can I ask you guys a question real quick I just want
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to step back and look at because I've never got to talk to you guys about this but look he's a V knock book now I've
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looked into this a little bit and I've studied things like the tetragrammaton
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and y'all Dave Ave and all the different names and stuff but I haven't studied it like you guys have and your website the
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keys of enoch org to me and please correct me if I'm wrong here but the
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that name you know that white VH or whites WH that name kinda shows us like
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a type of quantum entanglement does it not yes the name that's most commonly
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used in the Holy Scriptures and it's connected of course with the idea that God has a code in his name and we were
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the first who published in 1973 how the name of God and the ancient Hebrew
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Aramaic can activate certain frequencies within our body and actually connect
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with the DNA RNA system of our body so in a certain sense he calls the god code because you know our DNA actually has
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four nucleobases some people are familiar with this adenine guanine [Music]
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uracil and cytosine but if only three are used and if you look at that and
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comparison to the divine name like you mentioned you have one I ate W we'll say w/h so you have also through
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four letters really or three letters and four places it's just like our DNA and
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then by changing the letters around which you can do the ancients did this called permutations you're able to be
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able to you know do the same thing that you do with DNA I mean you're in the vibratory code that influences the way
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you think the way you act the way you oblivious elf do positive psychology and positive sociology so our work has been
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involved when with musical linguistics our work has been involved with parapsychology and para physics with
11:30 some of the leading scientists also including a man by the name of Harold Sherman who was from Little Rock
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Arkansas many years ago you have a great great gentleman from Arkansas who
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recently wrote the book on ESP and had an organization called ESP research
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associates foundation there in Lua Rock I met him two years ago he was thrilled with our work but our work in many ways
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was too technical for the average person so we have had to come up with films and documents and music studies to show that
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to take a little bit of the ancient teaching and move it to a higher level of vibration and make sense
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Harold actually lived in Mountain View but that's not too far it's just north of his foundation founded there Wow okay
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so that wasn't that Canada that was founded in the Ozarks that's very cool interesting actually I think legally it
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was founded in little Rokit according to you know but he had a home really a cabinet he called it the arc Haven a arc
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a haven up in Mountain View and Harold's work with the astronaut Edgar Mitchell
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we work with our own Edgar Mitchell he was the fixed amount to work on walk on the moon and he did experiments psychic
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experiments when he was in outer space showing mine over matter does work you can communicate thousands of miles level
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way over to ordered hundred thousand miles to earth to individual biological
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targets very sophisticated mathematical code so Harold Sherman worked very closely with also astronaut Edgar
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Mitchell who eventually founded the ions incidence of noetic science has really taken some
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of this oh yeah to a higher level yeah thank you no God bless ions right thank
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you know because that there's other institutions out there that are doing big big things but ions is with
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definitely one of them you you know look I want to put some of this stuff together because I've talked
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about you know magic and stuff on the show mysticism spirituality a
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consciousness exploration the out-of-body experience and in my view it all runs together and I'll tell you why
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and maybe you guys can fill in the blanks here at the same time I was studying a Rosicrucian style magic which
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really tapped into the four-letter name of God right YHVH they have a few
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rituals there where you vibrate the names and and call out to the Archangels and at the same time was reading
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journeys beyond the body with Robert Monroe and stuff and I really wanted to have this experience now obsessed over
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having this experience actually because I wanted to it's not that I didn't believe in it you know it's just like I just had to experience it so I would
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know now here's the thing it didn't I didn't launch out of my body for the first time until I started using that
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four-letter name does that make sense do is there something in sincerity in the
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use of sacred language this is why it's something that cannot be learned by buying a book or going to a weekend seminar I was able to study the biblical
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languages I study for many years as a young professor I was also taken back
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that the ancient teachers had these angelic experiences but it was only when
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I was humble enough to call upon God's name and use it with the primatte shion's in the ancient Hebrew Aramaic
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and also in the Greek language of the New Testament that I had these unique
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experiences but the information was so vast and so shall we say global in its
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intensity and vision I had to write it down carefully and share it with only a handful of scholars so we feel like
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really the body is a vibratory Channel if I can call it that or frequency and
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when you resonate with the right tone so I know people were trying to upon this even going to seminars people
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are using certain types of mantras and vibrations and guided meditations and the stranger have some connection we
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call it a like a linkage with other realities and I think that's really when you use the divine name you're reaching
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some of the highest vibrations that are possible so I think that's really important I'd love to hear maybe even if
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you have the time now or after the break what your experience was with this but I want to say Jo to you in the audience
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there's a Desiree and I have published a book called the 72 design aims of the most high and then as we explain
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linguistically and musically how to use these names because it's by reading this in the keys or any one of the classical
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books is not sufficient most people take time to develop the breathing techniques they have to develop what we call a
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vibratory sense of using language properly so all seven levels of the body circuitry are activated they have to
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have a sense of joy and happiness proper intention to use the higher mysteries but they've altered the human rights and
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so we put this in a beautiful book that's been illustrated by one of the top artists from Missouri and it's a
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very interesting book for beginners so those of you are interested go to our website keys of enoch org and be
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appraised that we have this book called the 72 livings of high names of the most
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high and this will give you the information you need linguistic weight as well as historically to feel how
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comfortable and I just want to say a lot of people don't like the word Jehovah but as well I'm glad you said the four
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letters because basically it's all the permutations inside yo hey vote hey hey hey yo yo hey hey is all the
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permutations it's a vibratory frequency that the ancients understood and really it relates right to us today in our DNA
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Oh God's name is a code word it's a code system to activate his light within our
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body to raise our consciousness within his name and that is why it's referred to even in the book of Revelation John
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the Divine that his name will be a part for you but just on a basic level it's also connected with the three which is
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like a Trinity or even a tetra hydrant and then that in folds until before which is really like our four
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dimensional reality so third and fourth dimensional reality is trying to be manifest through that energy that is so
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fascinating yeah because when I started learning it I was just the basic name I was learning the Hebrew language and all
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of its correspondences and I bought this book actually that I really loved called The Aleph bent right and it's uh it's
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just it's a really thick book that gives you the entire unfolding story of the Hebrew language and the magic behind it
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and I just wonder do you guys have any inclination as to where this came from
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like some people say that the you know the Hebrews learned this from the Egyptians and the Egyptians from the
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Brahmins I'm not so sure I wonder how far back this really goes or if it goes
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into some race that's even more ancient than we're aware of exactly that's what
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we feel you know everyone wants to identify it with something upon the earth basically the Bible starts with
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the Elohim which were a powerful of the creator of gods and then all of a sudden there's this manifestation still in
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Genesis the book of Genesis with Yahweh Elohim so it's a certain vibratory frequency that comes in at the time
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especially connected with the Adamic species which is what we consider ourselves all of us on the planet no
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matter what right and so basically it's coming from a higher vibratory frequency and it's coming from also the the
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mathematics if you've studied the olivet and some of that you understand the mathematics of each of the letters like
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the first the Yoda is a 10 there's like a completion so most of the biblical scholars and archaeologists recognize
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the Hebrew language is traceable to that patriarch called a bear eb ER and that
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name means those who come from the other side of the river some think this is a metaphysical reference to angelic
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origins of the Hebrew language from that happens others think it's from one of the really patriarchs who came across
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the Euphrates others from the area area we call Yemen and Saudi peninsula
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various theories but the point of it is the language itself defines a unique vibratory knowledge that has influenced
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some of the greatest minds on other earth including the great and wonderful painters artists musicians who've been
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inspired by God's holy names keep up the great work and if you're interested we
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can give you other citations and references but the olive bread book is a very good beginner text yeah it's just
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there's just so much stuff in there and this is good where we can start here and kind of work into what you guys are doing now and what you guys are planning
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on doing in the future with your work yeah this is gonna be a really good conversation I can tell right off the
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bat look guys tonight we're here with dr. Jay Jay her talk and decorate her talk stay with us we'll be right back
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through talking about before the break the ancient port letter name of God and
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the codes that are in reality and consciousness with it you know there's one thing I wanted to talk to you guys
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about that I've kind of tapped into once in my life and I realized there was something very real to this was that the
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vibration even if we vibrate with our voice really does something it really
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puts off some type of energy or powers where we can change things in our reality or open doorways in our
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consciousness and and I understand that you guys know all about that and you do your own types of music and stuff can
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you talk to me a little bit about understanding vibration and and monster a little bit more like you did before
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the break of course my background is in a variety of subjects including
26:27 linguistics the physical sciences music I had the opportunity to be on the
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faculty with Ravi Shankar and Andre Previn through the Disney Corporation back in the early 70s when I was
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vibrating God's holy names with musical cues or our musical vibrations
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I had this remarkable experience of angelic contact and this has persuaded me to go ahead and to work with other
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musicians and my wife and I have had the opportunity to work with Carlos Santana Alice Coltrane and many of the top
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singers and instrumentalists in all of the major countries of the
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world we feel that we were moving into the age of the Holy Spirit where divine
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knowledge and scientific knowledge are coming together through vibration but it has to be a sacred vibration of
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celebration of life in the inner dimension of the Holy Spirit at work as opposed to heavy metal music the music
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what I will call materialism sensationalism and degradation of the
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human psyche and this has caused us to be largely caught up in the dilemma of whether we want to go into a
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of violence or culture piece we think much of the violence we see what must young people throughout the United
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States is due to this culture of violence that comes through the false programming so we also work with dr.
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Emoto who was the Japanese scientist who looked at water and he put water around
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different types of music and you can tell that certain music literally made this beautiful kind of sacred geometry
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and we've worked as it was mentioned in our bio with Stephen Halpern in fact one
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of the CDs we came out with uses that divine name we talked about in the first part of the program the yo hey vote hey
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in many of the names and is a very very powerful when people listen to some of this music and other sacred music of
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course we're not going to say we have the whole the only one but there's a vibratory frequency that just takes you
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into a different level and it can sometimes do things like you know purify the energy around you help you change
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the energy in your car in your house with your family there's a lot and even within yourself we think people should
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meditate because especially in the hecticness that we're living in right now if you don't take time out for
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yourself you're going to end up with health issues and other issues that are going on around you so the meditation is
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good a lot of people can't do silent meditation so we highly recommend the mantras because it vibrates in your
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system and it helps to literally heal the cells just like Emoto showed in the
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water if the water is much more beautiful when you use certain types of music and vibrations and positive
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thoughts Wow yes because and when I was
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doing these things it's kind of like when you go get a book right someone says here read this book do this prayer
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do this meditation or mantra or whatever and things will start to happen and I think a lot of times in our life what we
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do is we start doing these things and we don't really understand why we're doing it just because we want to have an
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experience so bad right and then we give up because maybe it doesn't happen right away or maybe it doesn't feel right but
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what I like about your website especially the keys of Enoch tour gives you guys really get into you start with
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the basics of it right so you kind of start with the book of knowledge right the keys of Enoch and then teach
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about that and then work your way out into this spirit science world where everything kind of blends together is
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that what y'all we're trying to do is show how it all just runs together absolutely bring it not really writing
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to guys but harmonizes together and this was the work of the great poets in the Old Testament and we have the
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celebration in the New Testament in the book of Revelation that speaks in
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Chapter 15 of the almighty moving upon the waters of creation and there are
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many figures of speeds or symbols of speech that are too abstract to be taken
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literally until one gets the into the concept that there are greater force fields of energy that the writers of
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Scripture and the ancient poets scholars are referring to in the divine experience we call that the oversaw for
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the Christ soft that is awakened but we really don't see any difference I know this was something that you like as well
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really between science and religion especially when you take science with the understanding of quantum physics and
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what we would say remote viewing at me for your listening audience that they're not familiar there was a lot of
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experiments in fact our good friend Russell Targ he mentioned dr. Jack wrote a book with him he has a new video out
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on Amazon Prime called third eye spies
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they did a lot of work government and I highly recommend it because it's amazing
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what they were able to read names of file cabinets and a top secret NSA
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classified bunker so any one place underground 3,000 miles away so this is
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just a small part of the top scientists we work with at Stanford Research Institute in other places who for 20
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years we're trying to disprove the fact that the mind when elevated to a higher see the vibration can see it through
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distant dimensions and retrieve technical knowledge without the use of technology and I think the most
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interesting thing and this is something that Russell and his friend helped put off who were head of the esri program
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there did they analyze the time it takes to get the information
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turns out that it's faster than the speed of light or the speed of sound so they've terrorized that the
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consciousness they tap into is this entangled consciousness or non-local consciousness that no one like sends
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their consciousness like to Russia to look at something and then brings it back they just tune in to the space-time
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reality of Russia either now and they they actually sometimes tuned in to things in the past or the future one of
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the cool things is Ingo Swann wrote about the planet Jupiter before we made
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our the probes went to Jupiter even on the fact that there was a ring around Jupiter very faint but an accurate
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description was later proven by NASA scientists so we put this in a book by
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another colleague of Russell Targ on ourselves called Elizabeth rauscher dr. Elizabeth rusher in the book we
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published last year was called mine dynamics in space and time and this book is over 600 pages the deals with the top
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scientific experiment I call them the real x-files so this was the lid off the
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secrecy and shows that a small group of us engineers scientists and educators
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were able to prove mystically and to experiments that the mind can see at
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distances that are beyond the rational understanding of psychic phenomena so
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you asked earlier you know how did we get the names like Yoda a bowtie or something like that and the idea with
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remote viewing that actually it's not like an angel that's living in some other reality has to like leave that
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other reality you know come down here say hi to you give you some information and then go back I mean that's not how
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it works remote viewing doesn't work that way nonlocality it doesn't work that way it's a matter of just extending
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consciousness reality and I think this is what people are starting to pick up on now that you know if they're aware of
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it we are totally interconnected to whatever we want to tune into if we want to tune into you know who's going to win
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the world series or if you want to tune into you know what's on another plane or what's going to happen in four days
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from now sometimes we can and Russell Targ did in the whole experiment and experiments I was involved with in 1972
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a semi tree I saw through remote-viewing pyramid structures on the surface of our
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sister planet Mars and later when Mariner 9 got to Mars and proved that there were actual pyramids
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hundreds of times larger than the great pyramids in Egypt I was given permission to publish one of the pictures in the
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keys of Enoch which you first read but it's all in scientific language or what
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I will call new spiritual scientific language because it's based upon raising our consciousness to a higher level of
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vibration well some would say why do that well is it biblical or not does it cool if you go back to the original
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Bible in the book of psalms for example you will see that there are instructions
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given to a person to read 150 Psalms to do it in an undertone or to do it in a
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vibratory sequence so if it's true that there's a Bible within the Bible of
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music in song yes so like the Psalms that's what we've talked about is good note or name the
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shamash tehilim right it's really a very magic magical text in a way because you
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can protect yourselves it's very loving I know you know some of the verses in there are kind of harsh when it comes to
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the enemies and stuff but really it's done a lot of magic in my life as far as
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protection manifesting things bringing love into my life all this stuff and it's like well you know the whole time
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and then I was going to Sunday school in church I thought that this was just a
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text I needed to learn because it was the Word of God but little did I know you know and you can correct me if I'm
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wrong here this thing is an actual code source for creating you know a loving
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wonderful reality in their life if you want it you know and the Hebrew people
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actually would read the Psalms over someone dying so in a certain sense it's also like the Tibetan Book of the Dead
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yes we'll go on and this is very important for our listeners to understand that one must protect one's
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mind when one opens into other dimensions because there are so we say
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other forces in the universe that would like the human race simply to continue and continuous Wars
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and acts of violence and not really prepared for the higher dimensional levels of creation so this is the divine
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source speaking through the codes which are now being studied deeply by scholars and Jerusalem scholars that we've talked
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to both products in Catholic and Messianic Jewish throughout the world who realize that we're very close to
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those wonderful events they will disclose the coming of the B'nai elohim the sons of God is there referred to in
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the prophetic section and I have to say we did write a commentary on an ancient book it's a Coptic Gnostic book this is
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early Christians in Egypt and it's called Pizza Sophia if anything
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listeners really and so what you're saying and what we're saying it's an amazing book in addition to course the
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keys of Enoch but what it talks about the Psalms it actually goes through the Psalms it says you know you're not just
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fighting like the King next door you get some of some talk about that you're actually fighting powers and high places
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so it really takes the whole psalm energy to another level and then shows that it's a way of literally
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transforming ourselves when we can work with actually uses McKinnell deck which is a very popular term nowadays but it's
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because the deck boats in the Old Testament and the New Testament and it also talks about you know the Angels
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like Michael yes it gives us a whole recipe for understanding how the early
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Christians the Coptic Christians how to understand that there were many forces that would keep Humanity in the state of
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unconsciousness allure energy feel rather than the one of the Christ nature
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would look all the higher levels of the design experience so I commend you for
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your perseverance because this is our work is to bring science and spirituality closer together but do this
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correctly through credentialed scientist biblical scholars and archaeologists
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we're willing to go really to the Middle East and to work with the archival
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evidences of the Lost text and to see that is that we're a better blueprint is
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being put together for the human race and that blueprint is of what we have a positive higher path to take as we wish
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we want to take the lower path a negativity we will simply go in the way of should we say the imbalance and
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the the improper situations that we find in the news of violence culture violence
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we are for the culture of peace Shalom it's alone right yeah well here's here's
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the problem that we run into with this though like you're right I do believe science
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and spirituality are two sides of the same coin and almost even on like you know how the right brain speaks to
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spirituality and the left brain speaks to science you got logic and art etc but
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I here's where we run into a problem when you read the text of the Bible or
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even the Torah or whatever you're reading the Quran there's so many texts
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in there that speak of violence and things that just throw people off and this is another thing that I have a
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problem with too it's like how do we how do we see past that or I mean are we
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really under the reign of some type of being or intelligence that's like they can get that way towards us you
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understand I'm saying I'm sure you've been presented with this before where you say look guys I understand this is
39:50
magical it's wonderful and it'll help you ascend into a higher consciousness but what about what it's saying in these
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texts about all of the you know the murders and wars and all of these different things in Leviticus that we
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got to do and burning witches stuff like that what do you guys say to that when people question it question those things
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well first of all dr. jack actually shortly after his experience in 1973
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pretty much as we kind of translated the Bible not I mean he's used every word of
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the Bible in that sense but put it on a higher level so that's you can find that through our website keys of enoch org or
40:24
also something called a as an apple a ffs USA org you can find a few keys of
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Enoch but with that said and yes many people have asked us this we would have to say we have to look at where we're
40:37
living right now and there is Wars and there is violence where is that coming from going back to the business up here
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it's actually coming from some of the what we would call the local hierarchies these are the energies around this
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planet what we believe that around this planet there are very positive energies energies we would
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identify connected with the higher beings of light the angelic messengers the Christ all those energies and then
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there's those that want to what Mississippi are called self will and the struggle upon this planet is really
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between those who want to work in the collective wholeness oneness or those who are into self well and it's really a
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growing pains in a certain sense with an evolutionary system we believe we're in a schoolhouse connected with earth and
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really it's part of our evolution to grow out of this violence to grow into that collective oneness and sometimes it
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takes really a struggle to do that so the Bible or the Torah or the Tanakh as
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we would refer to it the Scriptures have many levels of meaning and you could look carefully at the meanings by the
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great biblical scholars in the great commentaries that come down to history the majority would say the Bible is a
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blueprint of spiritual evolution so we can see on the more basic levels the reality of culture history where people
41:56
are praying with the name of God to justify their worst scenarios but as you go to higher levels of psychology and
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spiritual wisdom you'll see that the god of creation is honoring his people
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through divine intervention is providing solace and deep hope for those who miss read the gods who have been shall we say
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conquered by the the traditional movements of spirituality so in the Bible you find many levels of
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spirituality even so we see the mischievous misuse of God's name and so
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there are those scenarios that one has to work through in order to find the true God the Most High who gives out of
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compassion the Christ to humanity thus in the New Testament one finds is where
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the personal dynamic of God's relationship in Christ that overcomes the shortcomings that when sees in the
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war God's a veil or the would be the war psychology of many of the false leaders in the Old Testament so we've been able
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to work with the original languages those the Hebrew but the Aramaic Ugaritic Akkadian we've been able to
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study this and clearly you can say that the scripture is a blueprint of seven different levels of
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spiritual teaching and if you go to the highest levels you have to go to the death experience of the dis
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understanding of a God of dualism a God that wants death and war etcetera to realize that is a lower level that one
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has to work through to find the loving God who presents the christ who presents the Psalms who presents really the
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insights of Ecclesiastes to his people rather the whole spectrum that's
[43:34] presented so we work through the fall scenarios of the concept of God Wow you
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know it's so synchronistic that you say the insights of Ecclesiastes alright
43:46
because we we just got through talking about that you know so I'm Clyde Lewis the show we were talking about the
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assassination of Abraham Lincoln and John F Kennedy and how there's a lot of the same names that are happening and
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then last night we had a discussion about it as well and it's like you know how in that book it says there's nothing
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new Under the Sun right you know to enjoy your life all is vanity just enjoy your life love the fruits of your labor
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and this kind of thing do you believe that there is the same kind of energies
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and stories that just keep permeating over and over and over again like on a scientific level well God didn't write
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one book and go to business his revelation continues and one of my favorite scriptures is Jeremiah chapter 23 verse 3 so think of the three threes
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where he writes call upon me and I shall answer you and readily tell you about
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grapes and incomprehensible things that you have not known which means even in
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Jeremiah even in certain sections of the Old Testament you will find a reference to his knowledge that will be further
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revealed in the New Testament which is to say the New Testament is hidden in the Old Testament the Old Testament is
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revealed in the New Testament and both are recapitulated in the keys of Enoch that show a higher language of
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restoration that comes to calling upon God's only name with music and glory and I just want to say that some of this was
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also seen in the mathematical sense elves yeah I mean there's various ways of looking at that
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some of it is in numerical fashion some of it is in historic fashion like you know for the last 6,000 years has been
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war in the Middle East is their type of energy we believe that the Middle East and actually the keys of Enoch talked
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about this and the Himalaya area are like two major vortex points on the
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planet and that any time there's a vortex which is kind of like an a portal there's energies trying to control that
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portal so there's things going on like that on the planet and in addition to that the keys to Munich talked about for
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example the Book of Numbers where you have the numbers of the 12 tribes so like Reuben had like forty six
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thousand five hundred people and dr. Jack took that this is what he saw it's a mathematical grid system and he
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unfolded that around the earth starting with Egypt and every single one of those places that a tribe sits at because of
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the mathematics really is another sacred grid point on the planet when there's
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been contact with higher intelligence down to the site including Yonaguni and Japan which is the place that it looks
46:20
like underwater structures shuffle and Homo floresiensis act we've done that in
46:29
our last anniversary special which is on our website so in a verbal even a
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graphic way so there's a whole mathematics and in addition to the the keys of me like there were 64 keys and
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54 in the original The Book of Knowledge the keys I mean I would recommend to anyone there but also there's now
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starting to be another ten keys he always have these but he was told to wait to put this out years and then yeah
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forty years later and then what the last key was about is the whole fact that really our whole three-dimensional
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fourth dimensional structure is really probably in a reflection we could say of
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an asymmetrical structure this ties into Elisabeth Rauscher she's always talked about eight space and then mathematician
47:13
who understands how business comes together in each dimension and we even believe more so in other words we're not
47:18
just working on this third dimensional reality we're connected with other dimensional realities and it's all
47:24
through mathematics but more importantly than mathematics also consciousness
47:30
those of you who are engineers are interested in heavy stuff go to the
47:36
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47:43
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47:49
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47:55
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ancient Coptic texts the Desiree and I translated from the Coptic and the Greek or what is known as the new book now
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Jesus GI z8 gives us Industrial Complex that deals with things that we found in
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Egypt under the sand maybe we can talk more about all this in our next sequence
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Ryan yeah you're good cuz I've getting something locked into this I almost forgot about my break thanks for that I
48:25
appreciate it yeah so yeah this is really interesting stuff and it doesn't add a lot of things together here you
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53:51
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53:57
tomorrow night on the program of PMH Atwater will be with us we'll be talking about obviously the life after death
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experience there's something in here that you guys go to also make sure you go to keys of Enoch that lorg and future
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science org keys V Oregon future science that org are the websites designed for reference
54:19
if you go to the website there's a section in there where you talk about the book of knowledge the keys of Enoch
54:24
was the first book to point out the alignment between the Great Pyramid and the constellation of Orion and it was
54:30
also the first book to show the direct relationship between DNA coding and the
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divine name so the keys describe the divine genetic code within
54:41
the human body that will prepare humankind for new vistas of life within the surrounding higher evolution this is
54:48
some interesting stuff so it's not just uh what you're saying is it's this name these keys so it's not just a magical
54:55
thing that there's a scientific code to our DNA and genetics and and in reality
55:00
within this correct that's right to make
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a long story short we were in touch with a noted geneticist in the University of
55:11
California systems to University of California Santa Cruz and he was talking about Robert Soames that's right you
55:17
could explain well no he just said in looking at their ribosomes he said that there's no way that our evolutionary
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system which is for about four or forty billion here a point two billion years
55:29
could have evolved the ribosome creation system in our bodies to complex into
55:35
unique we feel really that the whole coding system that we really come from a light essence coded so I was talking
55:42
about other dimensional realities and if you go back to the Bible is where people don't get you know when add himself he
55:48
basically was a light body and so he had all the whole aspects of what we would imagine as a like beam and then when
55:56
they fell they took on our they ate of this reality so they took on mature ovum
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and garments of skin so you know it's not like the skin it's turning the Tree
56:06
of Life upside down we often say that so it's not like you know we came from the use of the earth that we gave them the
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bacteria eventually evolved into this eventually evolved into animals and then there was some sort of split and we came
56:17
here that's not how we see it at all because you wouldn't have the mirrors of other intelligences on higher levels in
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fact we don't even think we're the only Adamic species in the universe we think and we've know from other people have
56:29
had contact a very good friend of ours Elizabeth Clark she had contact with beings that lived on the nearest star or
56:37
in one of the planets of course Alpha Centauri when she had her experience in the 50s and wrote about in the 70s they
56:43
didn't even know that that was the nearest star but the aliens knew there was a nearest star so they were already
56:48
telling us that so I mean you know and they look just like us so you know where
56:54
do we come from not from this planet only so a lot of this is going to be coming out in government disclosure
56:59
which means the governments of the world are now quietly telling the people be prepared we have good evidence over many
57:05
75 years plots of investigation that there are thousands and thousands and
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thousands of documents that show that one we're not alone to cosmic intelligence is interested in survival
57:17
and three some of that cosmic intelligence shares the same divine image that we have they look like us
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they're Adamic they share the image of Christ and an atom in the sense of a
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spiritual evolution as opposed to a physical evolution from up down as opposed from down up and these are
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bringing us messages of glory that the Apostle Paul refers to discreetly in the
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New Testament the Corinthian correspondence we speaks of being taken to the third heaven the first happened
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it would be for the mischievous extraterrestrials the second heaven is those that are the ultra Celestials or
57:55
the extra Celestials though there are the spiritual bodies of light beyond the physical technology and the third love
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would be the angelic where you see the family of God or the angelic that vibrate the divine names of God because
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the great apostle tells us he heard names that were not permitted to be used on which means in linguistics knowledge she
58:15
heard the names of God in the full glory and of course there are other intelligences roaming around the
58:21
universe and reptilians graze that many people have seen in their own contact
58:26
experiences but I think more uniquely than that you can imagine some sort of little green man being on another planet
58:32
but you know us being on another planet I think that really turns everything a
58:37
little bit upside down and we actually the keys of Enoch even from the very beginning does not believe that we came
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from a like a hybridization of some local guys that came by and decided to make us if the keys mean our voice that
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we came from a like essence and that is really what's there in Genesis we were light beings that you know fell into
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this reality we're supposed to be caretakers of the trees but we got too involved if one wanted to say and the
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Pisgah Sophia asked the question you know was it a mistake that we made or were we supposed to be here to help
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humanity to help transform this entire reality if we're part of an evolutionary system our consciousness being here now
59:17
can help to evolve the system if we move into the light energy so the answer to
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the question is the second one Desiree Jesus said we are here because our planet is schoolhouse Mother Earth this
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is the preparation we're all making for a greater life experience and I had a
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taste of honey I had a taste of the divine for a few hours so to speak
59:40
actually two days very short period of time and human reference but it was
59:46
through the divine name that manifested the angelic experience and so I just say this to the audience that was listening
59:52
to the program be very sincere and devoted to the names that were used by the Hebrew scholars and the early
59:59
Christian scholars because they were the names that produced the the Shekinah the divine presence the Holy Spirit and the
1:00:06
great miracles that then unfortunately in most parts of the world dissipated when people turned away from the Living
1:00:13
vibration of God's name - simply written theological text but also turned away from the understanding that we have a
1:00:19
connection and I think that's the big thing is you know you asked many people on the planet maybe not in the middle middle west so
1:00:25
much that in other places that you know they don't believe there's much more than you know this you know 80 years or
1:00:32
90 years of reality some people are starting to understand extraterrestrials they don't even think others realities
1:00:39
of angels are real but you know those that do open themselves up to having
1:00:45
some connection and I think that's the important thing we have to believe and know these experiences are possible when
1:00:53
you use the divine names if you were kind of saying oh you know they're telling me to do this but I don't really believe anything's going to happen you
1:00:59
would have gone anywhere so you have to have at least a little bit of faith or belief in the fact of other realities so
1:01:06
this is a whole new science of the cosmic frontier we call it the understanding of exobiology other life
1:01:13
systems that share the divine image some would call it extraterrestrial science the science of those who are visiting
1:01:20
the planets according to many of the government documents not being disclosed so others would come and coming would
1:01:28
think of this as the coming of the Christ we think of it as the second coming of science and the second coming
1:01:33
of Christ which is both the spiritual and the scientific together wow that is
1:01:39
so much that there's so much great information on all of this that I got to
1:01:45
tell you this week has been fantastic for me is every guest I've had and it just gets better than the next as far as
1:01:50
validating what I've studied here's the thing that I really am very curious about you hear people talk about the
1:01:57
Elohim right you guys brought this up earlier and you know in the beginning if you look at the Hebrew text it says the
1:02:04
Elohim created the heavens and the earth which is like a plural form and people say well that means gods and goddesses
1:02:10
and it means other things right and then I've even seen images online of the Elohim which they say are different
1:02:16
angels and in the Rosicrucian system they have names for each Elohim which is like a different name of God like should
1:02:24
I Altai and all this other stuff right what what do you guys think the uom is
1:02:30
based on your studies research and your experiences well and this is part of our cosmology I
1:02:36
think first of all the name Elohim has used over 3,600 times in the Old and New Testament okay but we would also say
1:02:44
that you know what the keys of Nanak really offers is a cosmology of who we
1:02:50
are in the heavens and going back to some of the Kabbalistic information that you've studied which is the mystical
1:02:56
Hebrews right there's the Ain soft and that would be the limitless that's without any separation there's the whole
1:03:03
oneness but then as things manifest then it manifests to the divine fathers one
1:03:11
would say which is the power of yo hey vote hey but not by itself but with its 12 permutations and if you want to
1:03:18
divide it into just the three letters at 64 permutations so it divides into that
1:03:24
and then with the power of the Elohim which is the creative force of the
1:03:29
divine now why is it plural that's been asked for thousands of years why why Elohim uh supposed to you lo ha yeah
1:03:36
Aloha like the Hawaiians actually is a singular but anyway if the idea is that
1:03:41
there's not just one creation so you have this creative power of the divine
1:03:46
that goes out into many many many ways and forms and aspects so you would never
1:03:53
have a singular power of creation you have a vast pluralistic power of
1:03:59
creation and once that energy goes out then it creates even what's called in Kabul as well and the keys of enoch the
1:04:06
B'nai Elohim which are the sons of God the in the local levels and those are
1:04:11
the ones that are like creating some of the playing around with the DNA structures and you know if you went and
1:04:17
say I mentioned reptilians for example you know you wouldn't find them reinventing the wheel you'd probably
1:04:22
find and we have in space found adenine and guanine which is the basis of our
1:04:27
DNA they just would have a different you know arrangement and maybe certain types of hydrogen bonds that are a little bit
1:04:35
differently arranged than we but they're still using probably the same elements of life so this is connected with what
1:04:41
we would call the B'nai elegant answer your question directly the Elohim represents the Godhead the pluralist
1:04:47
aspects of God and the ark angelic realm working together and the names of God
1:04:52
are used in different ways throughout the scripture to show the ingredients of excellence and different operations of
1:04:57
glory in the New Testament of course the Gospels were originally written in hebrew aramaic and so the reference to
1:05:03
elohim is also now being admitted by christian scholars but i'll tell you one thing that the ancient book of enoch
1:05:09
that we're talking about the keys of enoch which is written by my husband in the 70s but the ancient book of enoch
1:05:15
actually also talks in genesis 6 and they're really talking about the bene
1:05:21
elohim not the original elohim and it said and I'll just read Genesis 6:1 and it came about when the men started to
1:05:27
grow in number on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them that the B'nai elohim began to notice
1:05:34
the daughters that they were good-looking and they took wives and then what happened with this is
1:05:39
basically they created Giants because they basically interbred with our species this is right in the Bible most
1:05:45
people ignore that don't have a clue what they're talking about but they interbred with our species now what
1:05:51
happened so you corrupted the Adamic species on this planet and when you go
1:05:57
back now to the Book of Enoch the original Book of Enoch which is from Ethiopia it's like over 2,000 years old
1:06:02
they said the flood came to wipe out that corruption of species to get us
1:06:10
back to the original Adamic form and since that time we believe from the information dr. Hirsh Acts had seen that
1:06:18
we've been in a quarantine state being protected from this ever happening again until a certain time and right now we're
1:06:26
at a time when things are starting to open up again so we have to have the information to know how to deal with
1:06:32 other levels of intelligence that was coming to update this is the reason we're talking to you is we're now living
1:06:38
in a time when these experiments are beginning again with the negative extra trestles interfering with the human
1:06:43
genetic code this was researched by two of my colleagues one John Mack of Harvard University and Budd Hopkins who
1:06:50
was a very skillful researcher and artist who was the also behind a
1:06:55
two-part television series monitors called the tutors this is about 25 years ago in
1:07:03
essence the bottom line is this the Bible is repeating itself on a higher cosmic level we're seeing the return of
1:07:09
not only one different type of extraterrestrial intelligence several types some honoring us some dishonouring
1:07:16
us so we have to understand that there's a higher genetic code in the scriptures that's repeated by the church fathers as
1:07:22
well as the ancient sages as aatrox that we should turn to the Most High and
1:07:28
realize the divine image the first lesson in Scripture we were creating the divine image otherwise we lose our way
1:07:33
in this cosmic soup one person saying one thing another scientists in another though the Scriptures have the inner
1:07:40
wisdom if properly understood gives us the spiritual identity that we need in order to go through this wholesome and
1:07:47
jetsam or this shall we say this craze of pseudoscience that is saying that everything is going to be a positive
1:07:53
outcome we say no historically there have been situations we're only a small percentage of humans which survive so we
1:08:00
have to have discernment but what the keys of Munich what dr. Czech experienced in the 70s was the fact that
1:08:07
all this information is coming out now and I think that's part of your work Joe as well just to bring this information
1:08:13
to the public so that we're not you know the people that were not the natives
1:08:18
when Christopher Columbus is coming over not even understanding what's going on we are to be made aware of who we are
1:08:25
why we're here and our connection with life in the universe and that's what's happening right now and I think we're
1:08:31
all part of that Wow so does this kind of line up at all with what zacchara
1:08:36
Stetson talked about or what do you think about his teachings and his works well I lectured with Zechariah ition in
1:08:43
several international conferences many years ago he was a serial ageist you understood the Sumerian text he was an
1:08:50
expert in so many areas but he thought that the God of the Old Testament that
1:08:55
Hebrew God we call yo de Vaca or Yahweh or the variations of that name in different languages represented simply a
1:09:03
God of the space colony or a space civilization we feel that the divine is
1:09:08
not limited in the way that he describes anthropomorphise yeah and he did of course there he started some of the
1:09:14
idea the Nephilim that they came and had you know fun was our genetic code well
1:09:19
that did happen but that wasn't the origin of our code and I think that's what's really important he was not a difficult hour he was the Serio logist
1:09:26
he was an Orientalist but he was not a scholar of the actual Hebrew names and
1:09:31
the great deeper meanings or nuances of these ancient terms this is where our
1:09:37
research comes into play that's why we're scholars in Sciences working with both the scientific traditions and as
1:09:44
new scientific discoveries as well as the old spiritual tradition and the new spiritual validations in this clear by
1:09:51
our work in the Middle East the new texts are being found ancient texts that is in the new text or a new alignment of
1:09:59
knowledge that shows there was a much greater cosmology and understanding by many of the writers for example in
1:10:04
ancient Syria on the Holy Land so earlier earlier you brought up a lot of
1:10:12
the Gnostic stuff Coptic teachings and the pista Sophia which is something I've really looked into as well this whole
1:10:20
idea of I guess ascension some people
1:10:26
call it I call it alchemy other people call it different things does this go into what you guys are
1:10:32
studying as well the idea of well let me just ask you this because this will make
1:10:38
it simpler what do you believe is the Philosopher's Stone or perhaps the white stone and
1:10:44
revelations where we get a new name what are your thoughts on that often thought
1:10:53
of as the inner mind being blocked by a higher sense of self realization of
1:11:00
Revelation directly from the Christ figure in the context of John the design the white stone is that information
1:11:06
implanted within the human mind from the divine source as opposed to us just a mundane stone or an object found on the
1:11:14
surface of other earth but we want to emphasize though in our studies of Gnosticism there is gnostic teachings
1:11:21
which means of that entire knowledge that were consistent with the old and new supposed to heretical Gnosticism that
1:11:28
dealt with some of the Greek philosophers and speculation systems that denied the role of the female that
1:11:35
denied the role of the judge God in separate cetera to make a clear distinction the DA system is simply a
1:11:41
term that was used to imply those who sought knowledge rather than to buy an experience and there are usually the
1:11:47
Mystics I want to go back to the idea of a new name this is something we've talked about many times it seems that
1:11:53
like when we change our vibrations we're actually changing you know the name of
1:11:59
who we are so if someone's called you know Robert and then all of a sudden you know he has this kind of profound
1:12:04
experience oftentimes even the people of the Far East they would are the Indian Sanskrit tradition they give you a new
1:12:11
name like sundar or something like that because it's a change of consciousness so all of us when we kind of go back
1:12:19
into a higher light garment we'll have well know who we are here but we also
1:12:24
will have that higher vibratory system change to something greater so and I
1:12:29
think this is understood by many of the ancients that we have to start realizing that there's other vibratory frequencies
1:12:38
that we can exist on we can tap into and the pizza Sophia for example was supposedly written after Jesus had
1:12:45
ascended and then it was the wisdom he came back and told his disciples and when he did he talked about the whole
1:12:51
heavenly realms you know what's out there most people don't talk about that I mean you get a few things in the Bible
1:12:57
most people think that you know God Jesus and the underworld and that's in maybe with a few angels around there but
1:13:03
you know we're talking about mirror's of intelligences on different levels so there's all these cosmologies that we
1:13:10
have to start growing into I think that's really important and when we do we start changing who we are we start
1:13:15
changing into getting back into the light garment that we once had so the Greek word for stone that you're
1:13:21
referring to is Petra and the confession of faith that is made by Peter to Christ
1:13:27
also indicates his name that was changed to Peter or Petra meaning of the stone
1:13:33
and faith we were also given a reference in the first and second books of Peter and who doesn't
1:13:38
that we are to be basically sacred stones or rocks a holy priesthood this
1:13:45
is very important in the second book of first Peter it's an illustration
1:13:50
basically of a sacred geometry that we are part of to design name it within our mind that it's expanded and we've also
1:13:57
talked about the areum entombing and the stones around the the heavenly Jerusalem
1:14:03
I mean all those frequency vibrations are part and parcel of creation and
1:14:08
we're putting all those pieces together most people look at it as the emerald the ruby of the Sapphire but how about
1:14:14
bringing that all together and seeing them as activating the the crystalline geometries with their own system I'm
1:14:21
reading from second book the first Peter in chapter 2 verse 4 and 5 where he
1:14:28
writes you yourselves are also a living living stones being built up to a
1:14:35
spiritual house for the purpose of the holy priesthood to offer up spiritual
1:14:43
sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ so the metaphor of the
1:14:49
stone is a reference really to a different level of spiritual knowledge revelation that will come at the end of
1:14:55
time according to john the divine where suddenly we realize we have a Christ it's over so we have this higher Petra
1:15:02
mine of Christ founded on the rock of the Christ revelation but allows us to
1:15:08
see divine science and spiritual knowledge converge in unique laboratory ways wow this is incredible this
1:15:18
incredible stuff y'all come on I mean like you guys have been how how many years have you guys been doing this
1:15:24
research if you put everything together how long have you yeah it's not based on
1:15:30
a research that's what's unique actually in 1973 40 days of dr. Tighe mentioned in January 2nd and 3rd he had a unique
1:15:37
experience where he literally was kind of taken into another reality is the physical body actually left the planet
1:15:42
so he saw these other realities and what's interesting that's where he got you know the pyramid wasn't
1:15:48
Ryan he even in the keys of Enoch one of the things that says is that our son is
1:15:53
a variable star he says it word for word and around year 2000 NASA Goddard came
1:16:01
out with the exact same line our son is a variable star what it means is that they used to think it would go to solar
1:16:08
max and seller minimums with these solar flares and then they realized no it's not so consistent that it's variable so
1:16:15
they call it it's now classified as a variable star our Sun so Joe asked you do you have a copy of the keys that need
1:16:21
not fear in your office or in your studio I do not I do not apologize when you get home and what you have an
1:16:27
opportunity look at the keys of the enoch and you'll see the first picture shows a floating pyramid with the scroll
1:16:35
of Esther over the earth it's a kind of an obtuse or obscure reference to a
1:16:41
sacred geometry that the capstone of the stone has a connection with the plan of the Trinity which is manifested through
1:16:48
the sons of God the Binet and that we just talked about and we know that only less than a year ago December 19th ninth
1:16:58
2018 over Washington DC over the Pentagon in the United States this
1:17:04
pyramidal object is here at massive obscene by three different or four
1:17:10
different teams of researchers well three teams and four different people two were together they actually captured
1:17:16
this on film of tetrahedron spinning at 4:00 in the morning over the Pentagon is
1:17:22
similar to what we've seen in 2009 over Moscow and this is what I wrote about in
1:17:27
1973 and I was told under divine inspiration through God's divine grace
1:17:33
to put in writing and also in pictorial form this living capstone over the earth
1:17:39
that would represent the return of the Christ to the second coming of Christ as the capstone which is the highest stone
1:17:46
upon all of the sacred stones representing the different temples and the different places of knowledge of
1:17:52
Mother Earth so they return or the cosmic vision of the divine hierarchy in
1:17:57
Hebrew the B'nai Elohim is now taking place you want to recognize it or not
1:18:03
government disclosure will give us more information I believe to fill in the pieces and this is a collective return
1:18:09
is it awakening literally to other realms of intelligence that will be in
1:18:15
contact with us on all levels from the Christ's vibration to other levels so I
1:18:20
think it's also getting close to your break time oh yeah yeah so I was will
1:18:26
get to your questions I got a few texting questions here as well as a couple in chat too but we're here with a dr. Jay Jay and
1:18:33
Desiree her talk you guys stay with us we'll be right back after these short messages
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the keys of ether TV Norge as well as future science or guy hope you're hitting those websites for reference
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tonight then I want to get into some of these questions the first one is in on the next line here and it's asking it
1:25:40
says speaking of Gnostic scriptures and deeper metaphorical interpretations what according to you guys is the
1:25:47
interpretation of the forbidden fruit or the fall of Adam well it's very clear
1:25:53
that in the berry sheets for the book of Genesis as we know it what are the temptations that was given to Adam as a
1:26:01 lesson was to turn away from the false fruit of knowledge this was clearly seen
1:26:07
as the apple we call dualistic knowledge from the lower tree as opposed to the
1:26:12
living tree of knowledge yeah and basically it was the tree of good and evil if people remember their
1:26:17
Bible somewhat and the idea that is really we live in a world of duality and
1:26:22
so we really have choices that we have to make on a regular basis because we fell into this reality and so we have to
1:26:30
always choose between good and evil almost every moment of our life in a certain sense we're choosing some
1:26:35
direction to go in a positive way or go in a negative way God's Word is like The
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Tree of Life is qaeem according to Isaiah the prophet we can take the upper branches of knowledge or we can simply
1:26:47
take the higher knowledge and debates that into dualism of one side versus the
1:26:52
other ad infinitum God's love and grace bring to science and to spirituality
1:26:58
together goddess and contradict the true Living God reveals his love adversity through all of the lessons of
1:27:04
life that we must see which is why the scriptures are so basically true because
1:27:09
they give all of the psychological situations no matter how despicable that we have to work through in order to find
1:27:15
God's loving nature his true message of forgiveness and I know we've been biblically orientated tonight we do talk
1:27:21
about science and other things I want to bring in the idea of even the Buddhist idea of to go beyond this duality that
1:27:29
we live in and because it's the same thing they're trying to find ways to go beyond you know one day you're feeling
1:27:34
great the next day you know you're feeling bad one day you have lots of money in the next day you have no money I mean it's amazing how this happens to
1:27:41
us it happens to everybody so what do you do how do you get beyond this like good bad plus/minus duality system that
1:27:48
you're living in and this is we say you have to find the Trinity balance so what you do is you actually connect with your
1:27:54
higher self or with whatever connection to other realities that you feel you're
1:27:59
a part of and that gives you the insight on how to deal in fact sometimes it even
1:28:04
gives you the foresight and this is some of the work we talked about earlier in the program with Russell Targ one of the
1:28:12
things he did for example he was doing the remote viewing research but he also did a prediction on the silver market
1:28:19
which is like the stock market for silver and he could tell what was going to happen three or four days from then
1:28:25
using remote viewers so you know how do you predict the future well that's a whole nother conversation but the idea
1:28:32
that you can have insights and I think some of your listeners have and probably you yourself have had insights into
1:28:38
maybe things happening to you in the future so this gives you that that's
1:28:43
higher understanding of how you to live your life and maybe even be aware and protect yourself from dangers even as
1:28:50
basic as car accidents Wow so the many levels here of knowledge and
1:28:56
science that we're involved with again we work with those who are prudential scientists and scholars look at all of
1:29:03
the levels of meaning in the context of culture history in terms of linguistics in terms of music art and science and
1:29:11
we're looking at the big picture the human has now this opportunity for ascension we will believe to understand the divine
1:29:19
endowments that are promised to us we maintain as it were a higher path of
1:29:25
experience as opposed to those who are preoccupied with negativity and the
1:29:30
downward spiral of material society so what we really feel is going on right now is of course some people are caught
1:29:36
in the downward spiral of negativity is doctor detective said but we also feel that many people are trying to get
1:29:42
sensitized to other possibilities in life and whether it's just positive saw
1:29:48
or kind of we're seeing a little bit of what's happening in their lives so they're kind of tuning in they're
1:29:54
linking up one could say in a very you know practical level to having these
1:29:59
insights that very starting to use that's telling them certain directions
1:30:04
to go and I think this people have to feel comfortable with this let me give an example one of our colleagues is
1:30:10
Reverend Tom winter who was in the Holy Land and before that in the country of Jordan and found with his colleagues
1:30:16
Sodom and Gomorrha on the Jordanian side of the Dead Sea and we have had the
1:30:22
opportunity to work with archaeologists in Egypt underneath the Great Pyramid zoos into divine names of God the
1:30:28
ancient Hebrew Aramaic names we've had wonderful experiences of finding certain artifacts and certain areas that confirm
1:30:37
biblical history that's for all intensive purposes were lost and thought to be purely mythological so we're
1:30:44
bringing science and investigation through archaeology and geology into proper focus what kinds of experiences
1:30:53
have you guys had because you've been to Egypt quite a bit can you tell me about something that's happened to you there I
1:31:00
can you guys have told me during the break but you didn't really get too detailed and I'd like to if you don't
1:31:05
mind share with us some experiences that you've had with your spiritual practices
1:31:11
inside maybe inside the pyramids or in Egypt something that can tell us that yeah there's something there that we
1:31:16
could tap into as well given the right circumstances right well we actually
1:31:21
were able to do sound testing both with computer using what's called a pink noise or a
1:31:29
white noise sweetness to find the frequencies that like the King's Chamber
1:31:34
resonates with and and doing so and using also sacred names we had a singer
1:31:40
with us chanting we were able to have really experience where this kind of light
1:31:47
appears inside the what we called the ascending chamber of the Great Pyramid
1:31:52
all of a sudden at a certain point the names of God that we echoed became so
1:31:57
strong the vibratory nature in the chamber itself lit up and golden light for a few seconds standing cover waves
1:32:04
of energy which is to say it like a spiral of energy was seen moving up and down the chamber so we were told this
1:32:11
was the first time in thousands of years that the actual names of God the Hashem Yoda thought he thought prefer not to
1:32:16
use the name but we were able to show that there was a certain connection
1:32:24
between sacred geometry sacred language and certain architectural resonance
1:32:31
patterns right so we have this actually on one of our CDs not the picture of course but the sound frequencies which
1:32:38
seems to be for anyone who's into music instead of having overtones in the
1:32:43
King's Chamber you get actually undertones which means you're probably getting frequencies down to the Alpha
1:32:49
and the beta waves so it's actually putting you into the store being conscious with rhythm is also way okay
1:32:56
even lower yes so you can hear some of this we have a CD called the opening of
1:33:01
the Great Pyramid and this this particular CD it's not really just
1:33:07
entertainment music some of our other CDs are mainly entertainment music this is actual sounds recorded in several of
1:33:14
the chambers including the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid and you can hear that vibration is very very
1:33:19
powerful it's like you being there so our work was instrumental in finding the ancient tomb of Osiris and back in 1999
1:33:28
Hawass the great Egyptian archeologist spokesperson had on the Fox News special
1:33:34
the opening of the tomb of Osiris we actually there are tutors before him doing the initial research with sound testing
1:33:41
using sacred sounds and we're also remote viewing of underground objects we
1:33:49
were very careful and now this work is coming out in several books one is called the Jesus an industrial complex
1:33:55
where we show the accuracy of our work and also the use of what is referred to
1:34:02
oblique ly in the New Testament where Jesus says even the stones will sing or
1:34:07
speak we were able to show some certain connections that are left behind by the children of Israel when they worked on
1:34:13
the pyramids before the Exodus that still sounds of the Hebrew language were very important not only in evoking the
1:34:21
coming of the pillars of life but also moving certain knowledge outside of Egypt as well as underground Egypt was
1:34:28
quite in storage during the time of Joseph so the premise of the book is
1:34:34
very simple actually in 11th grade or 12th grader can actually if they want to
1:34:39
play with it can make hydrogen energy it's a very popular energy that all you need is water and solar energy and we're
1:34:47
proposing you know here you have the Great Pyramid really people say you can
1:34:52
build it and you could try to put a stone upon the stone but to try to put the structures inside like what's called
1:34:59
the air shaft that go you know many many many feet straight on your hair oh yeah straight up it's very very difficult or
1:35:07
even the five relieving chambers we don't even we barely have cranes I don't
1:35:12
even know today maybe we do but we didn't about 15 20 years ago that could move these huge blockage on blocks of
1:35:20
stone yeah that erosion so you know basically you know people think well you know how did they do that they're always
1:35:26
looking for the primitive Nippon corporation this is on You Tube one of our YouTube stations under keys of Enoch
1:35:32
so that they could not do this with primitive tools they could not use you
1:35:37
know like a barred sugar across the water they couldn't cut the stones with just you know some sort of old kind of
1:35:44
hammer and sickle and saw and things like that they had to use jackhammers so you know we've already kind of shown
1:35:50
it's very very obvious but bottom line on all this is that we're saying that
1:35:56
they had a certain type of technology and it could be as simple as hydrogen energy and actually technically if we
1:36:02
would use hydrogen energy today we would be much further along in terms of helping with climate change Wow yes see
1:36:10
I've talked to other guests about that too that they tapped into these types of things look here's what I'm trying to
1:36:15
connect as well maybe you guys can help me with this like I'm fascinated with two things both when it comes to history
1:36:22
and then we'll move into some more deep metaphysics and stuff but I'm just as
1:36:28
fascinated with the Egyptian culture as I am the Hebrew and the lines between
1:36:34
those two are so blurry for all of us but it does seem like like if you take
1:36:41
Moses for example right or or maybe even Joseph it does seem like there was some
1:36:46
cross teaching there that they weren't exactly enemies the way the Scriptures
1:36:52
make it out to be all the time can you expand on this at all to being called
1:37:02
you Joseph Joseph with some modern archaeologists believe as a reference to
1:37:08
Joseph who is a a consultant to the Pharaoh in the pre Exodus period of time
1:37:14
we know of course according to France daily she was a Jewish Christian scholar
1:37:21
19th century many of the hymns we find or should say Psalms we find the New
1:37:27
Testament in the Old Testament scuse me were found in Egyptian hymns many of the
1:37:32
Psalms had a proto text in the Egyptian according to France
1:37:39
Balak and actually talking about the New Testament in Acts chapter 7 verse 22 it
1:37:47
says consequently this is right in the Bible Moses was instructed in all the
1:37:52
wisdom of the Egyptians in fact he was powerful in his words and deeds
1:37:58
Moses knew the Egyptian language Joseph knew the Egyptian language and actually had the titles that were given to an
1:38:04
Egyptian so there are clear earmarks other texts that were there lost
1:38:10
certainly on the sands of time that we feel are there in the pre Exodus period that will show much closer relationship
1:38:17
that the Pharaoh had with the two god of Joseph without of Israel and that there was a bridge between the cultures at one
1:38:24
particular interval when great blessings were bestowed that our archives yet to
1:38:29
be found underneath the Giza Plateau and we feel also that's why when after Jesus was
1:38:34
born in Bethlehem you know he actually his family took him to Egypt I was like this the first thing that they did I
1:38:41
don't you think they went back to Nazareth they went like right on to Egypt so there's really a connection we
1:38:46
consider this a key portal so the Christ child was there at the witness of the great builders of the pyramids and the
1:38:53
great Egyptian hierarchy of the Laura gods that there was a Supreme God that had sent him on this mission to bear
1:39:00
witness to these structures of the human face there in the Sphinx that there was something beyond the animalistic
1:39:05
tendencies that there was a higher atomic image that ultimately would be
1:39:10
supreme in other words to say the line of Judah was the Christ figure conquering the Sphinx and I just have to
1:39:16
say that if you read the Bible you'll find that ultimately even though there was conflict obviously between Moses and
1:39:23
and the Pharaoh and he left basically it never says that in the future that Egypt will be really at odds
1:39:31
are completely at war with Israel that you know that they even though there have been battles and things like that
1:39:37
then Egypt wouldn't be one of the few countries in the area that would like refrain from being part of the whole
1:39:43
negative course of affairs that people talk about at the end time Wow so there
1:39:50
was definitely some type of I mean this this dynasty in Egypt lasted 3000
1:39:57
something years according to our history and according to you and several other
1:40:03
people that I've talked to on this program say that the Egyptians created some type of you know really advanced
1:40:10
energy system that was a from type of technology than we use now that was more I guess efficient and more
1:40:16
natural and more useful when you talk talk about energy systems I wanna talk about your new book your Jesus
1:40:21
industrial complex what type of energy systems are we talking about it we just are we talking about water or hydro
1:40:27
energy or are we talking about electricity Toyota has a car called the
1:40:33
Mirai which is using similar technology and if we had right now Stanford
1:40:39
University University of Stanford has actually been able to take salt water out of you know the oceans and you just
1:40:47
have to protect what's called the anodes and cathodes from corrosion and with sun
1:40:53
you can produce energy you get a water engine yeah it's a water engine it really is not difficult so Desiree nice
1:41:00
on evidence well we were in Egypt of salt water batteries we found evidence of water hydraulic systems we found
1:41:07
evidences of the splitting of the hydrogen atom we found evidences of solar energy all of the above were used
1:41:13
from for mailing and creating these massive structures yeah we call electrified water there's also the idea
1:41:20
of oxy hydrogen which is Browns gas that's being experimented with quite a
1:41:26
bit again Jeremiah the Prophet speaks of science and wonders in Egypt but is he referring to certainly these are more than just
1:41:32
the pillars of life this is a knowledge that was used by God's people that inspired them and also blessed the
1:41:38
Egyptians when they were in alignment with the God we would call of the prophets and the patriarch and they
1:41:44
could have used this not only for their own healing of certainly by the priests I wouldn't say that ever went to the
1:41:50
masses but also by helping the agriculture and ultimately even the
1:41:55
waters of the Nile this is what we're proposing in our book but ultimately you know there was an advanced culture dance
1:42:02
civilization there otherwise you wouldn't get the pyramids that you see today gotcha okay all right so so many
1:42:11
of the lectures that we've given have been critiqued in this book he's an
1:42:17
industrial complex you can get it through Amazon you can get it through the Academy for beauty Sciences even our website even on ebooks so it's the fat
1:42:24
cow SiC blueprints underground Egypt and some of the things that we feel are obliquely referred to in the time that
1:42:32
that Joseph in the Old Testament period buried food underneath Egypt for the
1:42:38
time of a great drought or great time and I also say that you know as we
1:42:45
mentioned we do believe it's a vortex area you've always gone you know where's the vortex point basically you can go
1:42:52
all the way from Israel to Egypt and be one collective home which we feel it's not just like you know when you're
1:42:57
standing on a rock somewhere it's the whole energy place and this is why you
1:43:03
know there is conflict in the area but there also why great things have come from the area so someone asked the
1:43:10
question why should you do this work will work credential scholars he studied with the pathologist we studied with
1:43:16
biblical scholars we spent more than 40 years sign the ancient languages that's our profession to see the deeper nuances
1:43:24
and meanings that are there in the beauty and the poetry of the old and new Testament that there is a higher divine
1:43:29
science but it's not the same materialistic science we find in the modern world that denies the
1:43:35
universality of God's Word in its application to cosmic laws and design of our biological / sociological experience
1:43:43
of life yeah I believe that the text in was about while you're reinterpreting
1:43:49
the Bible well you got to look at it this way the people that wrote the Bible especially the King James Version that
1:43:55
we got was interpreted it's been interpreted in several ways and still
1:44:00
yet more interpretations down to the literal text versus what we should really be looking at is the parables and
1:44:07
the deeper meanings of everything even Manley P Hall said the keys to the divine revelation or seven he talked
1:44:14
about seven different interpretations of the biblical text that's pretty incredible translations where God well
1:44:25
anything can be God to the average person the straight God can be a concept of philosophy it could be the Queen Mary
1:44:33
we're saying that the real names of God that were the neatness of the scripture were taken
1:44:38
away in the accessories of translation and going back to the original text when finds the Hashem or the El Shaddai the
1:44:45
name of the Almighty God or a TQ a meme in aramaic leo the the Ancient of Days
1:44:52
to have a Robin relevance of supreme majesty and beauty of the inner music
1:44:58
and harmony that we are distinct and used even a few pokes ago the he was suggesting the Pope was suggesting to
1:45:04
remove the name of Jehovah even from the Bible or you as you mentioned Jehovah Yahweh Beaute because he didn't want to
1:45:11
insult any of the Jewish tradition but we say look this is the Jewish people
1:45:17
put the name in they just won't say it and they'll usually use a Jojo sometimes
1:45:22 or say Hashem which means the name it was out saying it because it's to them
1:45:27
it's very holy it's very relevant and to be honest it's very powerful and it shouldn't be used in the wrong content
1:45:34
as many people would use today but he's it in a sacred context that's why I was
1:45:39
given so you know basically we need to keep the names alive we need to understand the name so we say the
1:45:45
students that theology or biblical history archaeology acquainted with the book 72 names of the Most High because
1:45:52
we go into the deeper aspects of how the Hebrew Aramaic was used by the original
1:45:58
writers and this has been referenced and used in various seminaries throughout the world and is still being referenced
1:46:03
and used by scholars in the Middle East so our work is really been to keep open
1:46:10
what we consider to be a very important journey that we're on as pilgrims of
1:46:15
Mother Earth to realize that there is a path that we're being shown by God's Word and markable what it may sound and
1:46:22
scientists that we've worked with and moved from the standpoint of atheism and materialism to the belief that the God
1:46:28
the Creator is also the source of the divine utterance the language of light
1:46:33
and vibration but the great writers speak of and we have tested and shown in
1:46:38
actual archaeological context not only in Syria and Jordan but also in Egypt in
1:46:44
Israel yeah we got to take our break here I can't believe we're already at the third hour we're already in the third hour
1:46:50
we've got two more segments to go here and I'm gonna get to your question to elf I see your question there I'm gonna
1:46:55
ask that one but more importantly when we come back with dr. Jay Jay and esther hertzog now that we know all these
1:47:02
teachings are here and there's so much deeper meaning to all of them and they've been here since the beginning of time maybe we should ask who put them
1:47:10
here were they people from Our Stars alien races possibly and we'll get more into that as well when we come back stay
1:47:17
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1:53:09
we haven't even gotten to the foundation really we've just touched the foundation of their work and I promised I would get
1:53:16
to some of y'all's questions in here but so they also get a question about the
1:53:21
life of Jesus and I think we should just kind of probably touch on that a little bit and then move back into since we're
1:53:27
in the third hour here moved back into how important your book is on the keys
1:53:34
of Enoch and that is not just a book it's not really a book if you go to the website you can tell that this thing is
1:53:41
like the structure that permeates our reality and if this is true then I'm
1:53:46
pretty sure if we tap into this and a science of it that we can find out any answer we want and I can tell you guys
1:53:52
are really really passionate about this but let's go ahead and just touch on this question real quick do you guys
1:53:58
know anything about this because when I look at the New Testament before y'all answer and then it talks about you know
1:54:04
the life of Jesus and his ages and all this other stuff I've always looked at this as like my metaphorical thing not
1:54:10
so much a historical thing because there's so many hidden gems in there but
1:54:16
I mean I'll let you guys answer that and then we can move on to the next thing well you're asking a question about the
1:54:22
hidden the earth of Jesus that's right well the years before its ministries let me just say that you know people want to
1:54:28
take Jesus very linearly you know he was born and then he died at age 33 and stuff like that but look at what
1:54:34
happened first of all he was born and we do believe that he was born will say call us fatherless he had obviously the
1:54:42
Virgin as the mother so that's one aspect of how he manifested on the
1:54:48
planet if you go back to missile jack it's not always accepted by everyone but
1:54:53
it does say it in the Bible that machism Jack's appearance to Abraham he was both fatherless and motherless so you know
1:55:00
these things are realities these are possibilities they're not just legends they're not just you know someone's
1:55:05
dreaming up some idea or something like that so if you then jump to the time of the
1:55:11
baptism you know it really doesn't matter he came in and then he was activated if one wanted to say or
1:55:17
energize at the time of the baptism where the Divine Spirit came down or was
1:55:23
seen connected with the Father so the Trinity elements and was completely activated within him so what do you do
1:55:29
before that you know wasn't as important could he have gone to India yes you know
1:55:34
why because in Esther which is before Jesus was born they were look about
1:55:39
certain the book of Esther by the time of Esther she was connected with a king that ruled from Ethiopia to India so you
1:55:49
know everything wasn't just in Israel with dr. Tighe mention our friend Tom winter who found time and Gomorrha
1:55:55
in Jordan with his colleagues it was his colleagues no one wants to see anything outside of you know Israel is a little
1:56:01
country for anyone that's visited there but literally there was one Emperor before the time of Christ that ruled
1:56:08
from Ethiopia to India so yeah could he have gone yeah he could have gone anywhere I mean people travel people
1:56:14
went around and he could have learned and maybe gained from that we do see although then he had a three-year
1:56:21
ministry which is important we mentioned three or the Trinity power many times in this program when we can get into that
1:56:27
even in a longer detail and we have in our books and then at a certain point we
1:56:32
do feel that he transformed from a physical body right it is time of death to a light body
1:56:40
right and people want to give excuses for that you know well it really didn't
1:56:45
he had a swoon theory he went to India to live after that you know there's many things or a result like made up by his
1:56:50
disciples no one realizes that he the key thing that he was showing is what we
1:57:01
went into a physical body and went back to the light body so that's really one of the greatest teachings that he gave
1:57:07
so what he did in those years before that you know I mean basically he was aligned to his higher self to his
1:57:14
reality self to his connection with God to the oneness and that's what's important most of the New Testament
1:57:21
scholars would say that the missing years of Jesus between the age of 12 when he appears between the wise elders
1:57:27
of Israel getting great insights into the mysteries of the scriptures and when he appears at the age of 30 reading from
1:57:35
the book of Isaiah was time that he spent with the scholars or known as the Essenes but the qwave dwellers or some call them
1:57:42
the Qumran common church that had a pre New Testament theology and similar to
1:57:47
that which was preached by John the Baptist clearly one does not know at this stage for sure where those missing
1:57:53
years were with he was under the tutelage of mystical rabbis the Essenes or possibly sages in Egypt where the
1:58:02
children of Israel did leave behind dark documents or India or any of the places but the point is is that the message
1:58:08
must be the judge of history right but once that baptism took place he was
1:58:14
literally activated and aligned to his higher to who he really was so basically
1:58:19
all his information really came from a divine source so if we're gonna look at where he learned and things on this
1:58:25
planet we don't feel that that's really of the higher essence what higher essence is what he says during that
1:58:31
three years of his ministry and he could have been living in South America for that matter once that happened of course
1:58:38
we do feel he was there in a key part of the plan and a key special time which the risen Christ showed himself before
1:58:45
dalian people of Israel but before the nations and some who have the Pentecostal experience see and feel the
1:58:50
presence of the risen Christ beyond history so to put this into a historic
1:58:56
Mays way is missing the point of the message the living right right it wasn't a linear information that he gained till
1:59:02
he was 30 so anyway I mean if you look at his teachings and stuff that is
1:59:07
basically you know when you go to church they tell you it's all about worshiping him but if you look at what he's telling
1:59:13
you he's trying to tell you your potential right this the kingdom of heaven is your
1:59:20
potential that's it again I read through two New Testament he said greater things
1:59:25
than these he shall do they means greater than the miracles that were performed going to the father so he was
1:59:31
referring and the Lord's Prayer in the garden in John's Gospel our Father who art in heaven give that prayer to
1:59:37
announced that the the alignment of each every soul that seeks to know the wisdom
1:59:42
of creation is with the divine father and the divine son and weird also we often say beginning of the Lord's Prayer
1:59:48
it's important your kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven so we're trying to link up I think that's what's
1:59:54
happening now I think there's a link up literally between the heavens and the
2:00:00
earth and it's going to get stronger and stronger and it's going to get stronger and people individual lives is going to get stronger on a planetary level so
2:00:08
this is really what's happening okay so now if we go back to your teachings and
2:00:14
the keys of Enoch you're saying the connection between DNA and the divine name of God which is YHVH or the
2:00:21
Tetragrammaton yo Dave Ave goes back over 30 years in the work of the book of knowledge with your that book right and
2:00:28
it talks about DNA and how it's directly well we talked about Kabbalah here on
2:00:34
the show quite a bit and you talk about in biblical and Kabbalistic teachings the fabric of the human body came out of
2:00:40
the utterances of the Divine Word that's pretty interesting so I would like to
2:00:46
look into that more because we want to figure out how to talk to aliens right most of us think man aliens are real we
2:00:53
see them in the night sky we see sometimes we see these or herbs that show up and they disappear a
2:00:58
lot of us on the show have talked about the Merkabah because we believe that they've that there are races that have
2:01:05
tapped into these bodies it's kind of like the Watchers that they come in and they they show us or sometimes they
2:01:11
permeate through our reality and I don't think we're gonna get any of these answers until we look at I hate to say
2:01:17
it the science of this I'm not saying focus on just the science but look at how we can connect the dots
2:01:22
between what's been taught spiritually and to the science that we know now with DNA and creation and vibration like you
2:01:28
guys were talking about earlier alright so I have to say one of the things in terms of communication with
2:01:35
extraterrestrials or what we often call also ultra terrestrials which are beings
2:01:40
that don't need the physical technology but a pure light right and so basically the whole idea of that is usually a
2:01:47
consciousness communication in other words it's not you don't necessarily hear them talking although from some of
2:01:55
our research they can talk you know literally have sounds come out of their mouths if they need to but for the most
2:02:01
part the communication is on a consciousness level so you can hear the words they're even see pictures in your
2:02:07
head because they have the ability to communicate on those levels and I just
2:02:12
want to bring in I think you were talking about some of the questions that animals actually are able to pick up on
2:02:17
this and a friend of ours Rupert Sheldrake if anyone wants to do the research professor Wilbur children out
2:02:23
of London England has shown that you know dogs and cats know when you're well
2:02:28
don't know when you're coming home even if you're like you know ten miles away and cats know when you're taking him to
2:02:34
the vet even though you've never even shown the cage they disappear a lot of vets don't even want to take an
2:02:41
appointment with a cat because they know the cat knows even if you call from your office never put the cage out you come
2:02:47
home the cats go on you know next day he's there you know it just they know so this is the way we don't communicate but
2:02:55
we can communicate we can use that higher consciousness mind to know things
2:03:00
about other realities and about this reality that's it okay all right
2:03:08
the keys of Enoch together all these different realities and provide a focus to the divine language we call the
2:03:14
language of light somebody we call it the language that's referred to as the language of wisdom language of knowledge
2:03:21
that the Apostle speaks of in first Corinthians others think of it as the language that was manifested at the time
2:03:27
of the Pentecost when light appeared over they had saluted the disciples who spoke in different languages but then
2:03:33
there was a language of the Holy Spirit this greater language we believe is the insight to the tool to re-examining the
2:03:40
Word of God into realizing it's great majesty in the seventh or the highest level of what the mind can see and
2:03:46
discern in preparation for the coming of the divine host or the cosmic intelligence which requires a maturity a
2:03:53
sophistication of interpretation as well as a loving resonance that we must feel
2:03:58
within ourselves that we were to properly prepare ourselves to shake hands with the cosmic others they think
2:04:04
the reason what the government's have covered up this story for so many decades has been most of leaders are
2:04:10
atheistic and do not believe that there's any spiritual significance that could be the go-between a language of
2:04:16
conversation the language of diplomacy so I just want to say also going back to Pentecost which is when the disciples
2:04:23
after the time of Jesus were talking to all these people and they heard it all in their own languages it probably
2:04:28
wasn't something that was really going out of the mouths of these because each one heard it in their own language it
2:04:34
was coming into their heads and it's important to realize you know this is a form of communication that we really can
2:04:40
get information one would call it from the still small voice but that we really
2:04:46
can have insights and even from you know Christ er from will say angels and
2:04:52
different aspects now we have to use discernment and we have to test the spirits I agree with that you can't just
2:04:57
take anything that comes and feel that's it but there's certainly some times people have dream visions where things
2:05:04
really happen to them and they're they're aware that they need to move in a certain direction this is all stuff we
2:05:10
need to start being more and more sensitized to and use in our daily lives and this is something remote viewing
2:05:16
this helped us see and quantum physics is telling us again we live in a non-local reality which
2:05:24
means everything even past present future and this base and spaces where we
2:05:30
can't even see with our five senses is all connected and all linked together so
2:05:35
read those of you are hearing this program read Acts chapter two and understand the greater message of the
2:05:41
Pentecostal story was to link us with a cosmology of consciousness we were prepared to know the greater reality of
2:05:48
the angelic Kingdom the test the angels but also to pass through all of the Laura phenomenon to realize that there
2:05:55
is a divine birthright that we have is cosmic citizens so the glory of the
2:06:00
genetic program was put into our body our flesh and blood from above not evolved from the insects of the cosmic
2:06:06
whatever from the lower though we were manifesting the higher into the Lord
2:06:11
through God's grace and I just want to say we're good friends with Linda Moulton Howe who we greatly respect
2:06:16
she's got a lot of information from people who come to her mostly from the military of the government telling her
2:06:22
about extraterrestrial trying to take the soul contract ease and she says a lot of grains they don't have the
2:06:29
consciousness that we do and that's what they really want our consciousness they don't understand why they don't have our
2:06:35
consciousness well we would say and it's our own obviously cosmology connected with the keys of you know that again we
2:06:42
came from a higher light body consciousness and we came down here where a lot of the greys and reptilians
2:06:48
have been mostly local genetic creations and so they don't have that higher
2:06:53
consciousness we can link our consciousness really back to the vibrations of light and we can do it
2:06:59
through the Christ vibration which is what Jesus in a sense said on the way shower so when we link to that vibration
2:07:04
we actually have greater insights about ourselves who we are and where we're
2:07:10
going oh we can play these endless games with Hollywood movies not knowing who's on first base seems everything is
2:07:16
negative there's no divine source there's no divine hierarchy they're doing to by a host of the Elohim that
2:07:22
can help us at this critical stage of the survival Western civilization in terms of the ethics of science the
2:07:28
ethics of the human heart and the spirituality to this shape the great minds of the rest some of the great gifts of Western
2:07:34
civilization yeah I just want to say one other thing one of my favorite things that Linda Moulton Howe ever talked about she was at citizens hearing which
2:07:40
was a gathering in Washington DC that was before Congress people actually talking about extraterrestrials and she
2:07:47
mentioned that this one contact was a government like a military personnel
2:07:52
with an alien when he communicated to her to this man I'm sorry when when this
2:07:57
alien communicated to this military officer officer that he did it it was
2:08:03
literally she said I think seven different levels of movies going in his head it was so powerful so it wasn't
2:08:10
just like over murders and then he saw a golden letter so you know some of them they can't talk to us and then we have
2:08:16
other people that have said you know they've talked to aliens they hear them they've even heard their voices speak
2:08:22
and stuff like that maybe words worth of real science but Linda says you know in
2:08:28
some of their abilities and there's not just one extraterrestrial there's many extraterrestrial intelligences some more
2:08:34
advanced than others this guy really received seven motion pictures coming
2:08:39
into his head and scary thing is she said in addition to him feeding this
2:08:44
military guy information the alien was able to also take information from the military guy and download his
2:08:51
information back to the alien so there's a lot going on with consciousness we don't even understand yeah Wow okay so
2:09:00
on your I meant your website again keys of enoch org and you talk about the Pleiades yeah earlier you mentioned the
2:09:06
past present and future and you said the book of knowledge the keys of enoch tells us in key 1 - 0 - 6
2:09:14
I guess 9 that the Pleiades represent the key to physical procreation and it represents the galactic beginning of the
2:09:21
physical Adamic household can you touch on that traditions whether it is the
2:09:31
Lakota or the up to AH or the Mayans or the others that we have worked with in
2:09:38
South America and even some of the African traditions there is a reference and respect to the Pleiades as being the
2:09:45
source for those positive energies that came down upon mother earth and I said what dr. J I got and actually I have to say
2:09:51
you were generous to say 30 years ago I was actually over 40 years ago so I was too often say but anyway but the idea
2:09:59
was that the Pleiades was really kind of the cradle and throne of our own consciousness and the atomic species as
2:10:06
I mentioned that were found out in space and that would be like the source one of
2:10:12
the source places in our local galaxy of where we come from and recently from
2:10:19
some of the Eastern European countries they've talked about the WoW signal is
2:10:24
saying that even our DNA probably has come through a type of cancer Mia or something a lot of times but biological
2:10:32
creation right right a lot of the scientists are now looking at the fact as we mentioned that a lot of our
2:10:38
evolution could not have taken place in the last 4 billion years of history and must have some connection either with
2:10:45
comets will say or meteorites or something that it comes from space and that gives a little bit of a movement
2:10:51
forward into the fact that we're cosmic intelligence so the plan is as part of that dr. jack also points out a Ryan is
2:10:58
a key factor Orion was a key factor also for the Egyptians imagine also by job
2:11:04
chapter 38 mill intestine any Cesar Ryan is like a portal or a gateway Stargate to other universes this is something
2:11:11
we've talked about with Elizabeth browser the multiverse this is coming back in the 70s and the keys of enoch
2:11:17
that we live in a many in one universe that there's many universes not just our universe that were familiar with
2:11:22
scientists are starting to come out what does it mean in plain English it means we should go beyond the extraterrestrial
2:11:27
to the alter trust Jill because the altered terrestrial are represent the angelic lights referred to the ancient
2:11:33
Hebrew Scriptures the exit dress to represent the mischievous definitely more fallen intelligence and most
2:11:39
instances according to many of the folk histories and pathologies the people in parts of
2:11:45
Africa the Near East and in South America so we have the opportunity to see the speak to leading in university
2:11:51
audiences leading archaeologists scientists who understand that there are troubling times ahead for the human race
2:11:57
if we bowed to these visitors who come with heavy technology of death as opposed to
2:12:03
knowledge of enlightenment and to go back to the aspects they have the sacred mountain it's actually my Mexico City
2:12:09
and they do this fire ceremony and every so many years is like febri 50 years they make sure that the Pleiades is
2:12:16
there and they feel if it isn't then I think it's a hundred and four years as well that you know their whole culture
2:12:23
could disappear or the whole humanity could disappear so they also acknowledge the Pleiades part of the source of our
2:12:30
humanity Wow I mean this is so much you guys have so much information here I'm going over
2:12:37
there's people on the chat going oh my gosh this stuff is just too much it's like it's hitting on so many levels
2:12:44
so most of these people that are saying this in the chat room by the way I've been listening to the show for some time and so you guys are hitting on a lot of
2:12:50
different things that we've talked about and I'm on your keys v-not org at your books here and I'm drooling actually
2:12:59
because I want all of these books every single larger book you know we actually
2:13:05
doctoral technical dimensions come out there's 64 keys of Enoch he had in his experience so he got calligraphy in 64
2:13:13
and then he actually saw what the calligraphy is all about and he puts 54 in the first book that he published in
2:13:20
the 70s and then now he's coming out with the last 10 and and we're up to just about Keith's 404 and it's called
2:13:28
the first light picture superscript the second light picture superscript each one has a different topic the third one
2:13:34
is about the sacred name actually exactly what we're talking around for students of theology and science or
2:13:40
interested in the higher connections because again requires some background and some teaching like you've been
2:13:46
exposed to we reference also book called the over self awake yeah on a simpler level dr. Jack and I wrote together as a
2:13:53
book called the over self-awakening a guide to the schoolhouse of the soul it's 72 phases of consciousness
2:13:59
awakening and talking about contact with other beings it's talking about like tying the sacred grid together on the
2:14:06
planet so it's 72 levels there's based upon the tree of we call
2:14:12
ESCA in the tree wisdom a very crisp position of taking the higher paths of
2:14:17
discernment so excited this is really over the heads of people and you want to tune in to something get the over self
2:14:22
awakening otherwise even for you we were talking about the divine name that's been key in
2:14:28
the third light picture superscript and it talks about a lot of the stuff we're talking about tonight actually join
2:14:35
language well you mentioned on Santorini - that's something that we've talked about like the tree of life or tree of
2:14:42
wisdom death that is a hard hard thing to talk about over the air but man I've
2:14:47
found so many I guess I could say spiritually true things even in meditation in what we call path working
2:14:55
that I've done before trying to I guess trying to explore consciousness really
2:15:02
so here we have something that it's given us a glyph or let's just say a tree this is okay you want to explore
2:15:08
who you are in consciousness here's the glyph of the manifested world right I mean this is big-time stuff man and it's
2:15:16
in behind all of ours all of our mystery schools this woman trying to tell everybody especially in the West like
2:15:22
Freemasonry Rosicrucianism all the stuff where they're keeping this stuff a secret and you got to go through all
2:15:27
these different ceremonies and rituals and all the stuff to really realize that what you're doing is learning all about
2:15:33
the Kabbalah but you're learning it on their terms and when you could just study it yourself that's what I've been
2:15:39
trying to tell everybody well what's important a few factors that we can't as you said go into the whole tree of life
2:15:46
but the malkos the kingdom is at the very base and any cobbler will
2:15:51
Kabbalistic scholar will say basically all that needs to be done what we're doing is raising our kingdom aren't you
2:15:58
know that's at the base into the next creation so we're literally trying to elevate this realm that were part of so
2:16:05
that's part of that and then at the very top of course you have hokhmah wisdom
2:16:10
which is connected the same word for Sophia when we talk about pista Sophia it's the same word it's actually
2:16:16
feminine even in the Hebrew but you wouldn't think that wisdom is is feminine but it is he
2:16:21
understood that and also of course the corrector was been understanding and then the other side is understanding so
2:16:27
we have to have the wisdom and we have to have the understanding you can have a lot of information but if you don't know
2:16:33
how to use it and how to apply it it's not going to give you the catheter crown which is the activation of what we would
2:16:39
call the eventually the 7th to 8th chakra so I know we're talking on radio and I can't do the chatting as a catcher
2:16:46
but I would say ma hello hey new Pokemon
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oh hey ma you see the difference between
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spoken language and vibratory language so again for those who are interested in this program conversation I ask you to
2:17:08
go to a website scroll down to our music and you can get either the album we did with Stephen Halpern one of America's
2:17:14
great composers called sacred name sacred toes walk try our new album that was made in Brazil with great singers
2:17:21
and actually they were professional opera singers called hallelujah at annoying means praise be to the Lord in
2:17:28
the ancient Hebrew Aramaic expressions these are very powerful renderings of how divine language can be used with
2:17:35
sacred respect as still respected to by name because it's not being used in a materialistic self-aggrandizement side
2:17:42
one of reverence to the Most High God is the higher purpose yeah this is great
2:17:49
stuff guys this is really great stuff we only got just a few minutes left here so you better get your questions in and
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well a fascinating night it's been for sure with dr. JJ and Desiree hair talk
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here and I got to tell you guys I mean everything that they're talking about if you've been listening to this show since
2:23:09
the beginning everything that they're talking about correlates 110 percent
2:23:15
with my experience there are things that I've didn't say to you guys but as I was
2:23:21
doing certainly meditations vibrations and rituals that weren't necessarily inside of Western occultism but I was
2:23:28
doing many things I had experiences of light peeking through I had experiences of energy that would just go up and down
2:23:35
my body but what really shook me was the out-of-body experience so if anybody thinks that you can't have experiences
2:23:42
learning this stuff you can my issue was is that it was so overwhelming and when
2:23:47
I would look at the text and all of the information that I really needed to study here I kind of wanted to take a
2:23:53
step back and didn't know where to start and so I guess this is what I would ask you guys is this isn't something that is
2:24:00
just gonna happen overnight right I mean this is like a lifelong journey and study of the things correct that's right
2:24:07
we're pilgrims of Mother Earth were here for some of us just for a few years others for longer periods of time but we
2:24:15
all have this great privilege of utilizing the great gifts and resources we believe that we're moving into the
2:24:21
age of the Holy Spirit where we're going to see miracles we're going to see as the astronauts have demonstrated privately the powers of the
2:24:28
mind extended many of the astronauts were deeply spiritual like Gordon Cooper we talked to people who have
2:24:35
acknowledged that there are technologies in space watching our planet there's also dangerous situations that seem to
2:24:42
have interfered with the person human history where we have to go into these blood baths of history and genocide but
2:24:48
the good news is the other side the higher altar trestle dimension we would call it the ark angelic doesn't exist in
2:24:55
God's plan I believe is to open the gates of this schoolhouse mother earth and graduate us to the cosmic University
2:25:01
and I think that's part of your experience when you saw those lights it's usually like a light being or a light energy some people call it a
2:25:07
pillar of light or it could be like I said a being of light and then you know that helps you to raise your
2:25:13
consciousness and to start seeing the fact that we're not just a body but we're a consciousness indwelling
2:25:19
temporarily in the physical body and yes we have to be here I think that's so important because I don't like all the
2:25:25
stuff going on with these younger kids that don't realize how important it is for them to be here now so they get
2:25:31
involved with situations of terminal illness or destruction through drugs etc etc but ultimately once we realize how
2:25:38
important it is to be here now we can still though have our consciousness in
2:25:43
higher realities and then bring that higher reality down here that's the whole thing with the Lord's Prayer may
2:25:49
thy kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven let's bring that energy down here let's not be you know it with war and
2:25:56
animosity that doesn't exist in those higher realms let's connect with myriads of angelic beings and Christ
2:26:01
consciousness and let's bring that down here I mean it's our language this would be a historic language we would call
2:26:07
this the Pentecostal experience awakening into raptures awakenings into higher states of experience of epiphany
2:26:15
of seeing things that normally are not logically understood except one has an interpreter or one has a deeper
2:26:21
grounding faith in prophecy to see these things come to pass but it can be very practical and you know people have asked
2:26:27
you know how do you do remote viewing how do you train in it and basically it's the first thing that pops into your head because your consciousness is part
2:26:34
of that larger consciousness but I tell people you know try it with your cell phone every kid has a cell phone every
2:26:40
person nowadays you know just like before you even look who's calling you see if you can tune in to who is calling
2:26:46
you it really starts to train your mind because we don't believe it really in a certain sense and that's the whole thing
2:26:52
with this with Sophia faith and wisdom we don't have that faith to know that this thing react it can't exist and you
2:26:58
did have it that's why you have the experience and that's part of our work also with the over self awakening block
2:27:04
that dr. Jack and I put together the very first parts of the book as well as every book in the scriptures but it says
2:27:11
the very first part is you have to start realizing there's a reality beyond your
2:27:16
five senses if you're stuck in only your five senses you basically will never be able to have
2:27:21
that experience so what we're trying to say I think what you're doing with your radio show is to introduce people into
2:27:27
other reality which includes the gifts of the Holy Spirit so the bottom line here can use the scripture is every good
2:27:34
and perfect thing from the Bob now is coming into the human experience from the people we've talked to through
2:27:40
universities throughout the world even from some government scientists we privately talk to there is an
2:27:45
expectation that somewhere in the near future we're going to realize there are cosmic civilizations out there but which
2:27:51
ones do we work with do the honor us to the honor our prophetic tradition how can we discern the spirits except
2:27:57
through the key names of God that were revealed maintained and used for miracles and great works of charity and
2:28:03
purpose so we would say even when you go into outer space as we go into outer space
2:28:09
as a species that actually the Bible we even become more relevant because we'll
2:28:14
understand who we are they understand the powers of the heavens that were a part of so I think that's important as
2:28:19
well it's not something that was just for 6,000 years of history I can say that the Bible in the language of the
2:28:24
Holy Spirit or the field of the Holy Spirit again this is why it's so important to understand that third part
2:28:29
that's normally ignored which in Hebrew be called is neshama the soul spirit in unity where our spirit our higher
2:28:37
spiritual consciousness is in conjunction with the Holy Spirit the higher realm of true wisdom and true
2:28:43
science not just superficial things or lower phenomena one sees in Hollywood
2:28:48
movies will you have simply the destructive alien aliens but you don't see the real beautiful faces of the
2:28:55
author trust you'll be angelic and I'd have to say I think what's happening now also it reminds me of the movie
2:29:00
interstellar if you haven't seen it I think most your audience probably had that you know there's beings trying to
2:29:07
help us at this very moment and of course an interstellar the planet was really you know beyond anything that
2:29:14
they could fix and yet there was her father who came back to the fifth dimension to communicate with her to
2:29:21
give her solution and I think you know whether there's people from other dimensions other realities they're also
2:29:26
here trying to help that's what the keys of yoga with dr. Jack experienced this is all information we
2:29:33
need for our future so that we can grow and continue as a species not only in
2:29:38
this planet but in other planetary world so we prepared for a positive future by taking a higher path a path that will
2:29:46
give us the insights and the glory and the power to overcome all of the lower- disruptions and certainly all of the
2:29:53
mischievous dialectics we see between the politics of one country and another all serving in Brooklyn evoke all
2:29:59
materialistic society we have a higher blueprint embedded within us as cosmic
2:30:04
citizens reclaiming our potential so yeah I kind of agree we we've talked a
2:30:13
lot about disclosure and where are the extraterrestrials and where are these beings that watch over us how come we
2:30:19
can't communicate with them and I really believe like what you guys are saying is they're already here we can tap into
2:30:26
these things but I don't think they're just gonna come down here and this is just my opinion and just start
2:30:33
communicating in a handshaking and change everything until like it's up to us we're the ones that have to do this
2:30:39
work so we can connect to it that's what I believe what are your thoughts on that yeah no they're not gonna do it all for
2:30:45
us because this is really a schoolhouse but I think what's important and you can talk to many people who have had certain
2:30:50
types of encountered either with angelic messengers or even some extraterrestrials and there seems to be
2:30:56
a linkage a consciousness linkage that is formed from that so information is
2:31:03
flowing to this planet we just have to be able to react to that and to make it
2:31:09
you know do what we can to not be dropped into phenomena or lower realities there's a distinction in the
2:31:15
Greek New Testament between phenomena and Newman are the thoughts of the mind of wisdom are the more important aspects
2:31:23
of the spiritual food in nature that we must be prepared to handle as opposed to
2:31:28
these phenomena that to come and go and disappear by day and night we are being
2:31:34
prepared really it puts the foundations of reaching out into the universe making contact with cosmic civilizations that
2:31:40
worship the same God understand his glory understand the great traditions over archaeology and science
2:31:46
that we have in the great centers of civilizations that are now being threatened by those we have no ethics
2:31:53
basically are in a mode of disrupting the great risks of Western civilization
2:32:00
so as we were wrapping up I just wanted to mention a few things again that we talked about in your program and that is
2:32:06
you know where do people really begin with some of our information it's a vast cosmology it's a spiritual cosmology but
2:32:13
it's also a scientific cosmology when you get down to the to the aspects of quantum physics so I like to encourage
2:32:19
people you know with some of our music because that's a very easy way to start we also have some great videos like it's
2:32:26
called the light body which takes you around the planet it has graphics as well as nature scenes with what sound
2:32:33
vibrations and all of our music is considered like we try to make it into sacred music for the film called
2:32:39
Merkabah voiceover sorry I didn't have assumed we got many international works with this film to deal with the divine
2:32:45
vehicle God not to be confused with the UFO the heavy metals that does mysterious things in a violation of
2:32:51
human free will so these words Merkabah or masa by merck about the science of
2:32:56
the divine vehicle the use of the divine name of God as is pronounced with great reverence and piety the reference to
2:33:04
this obligation of the most high of the holy words holy holy holy or in the Hebrew kadosh
2:33:11
kadosh kadosh or in the latin Pontus Pontus Pontus remind us of our great
2:33:17
fathers in our great grandmothers throughout the world who'll acknowledge that we had in java counterparts we had
2:33:24
other civilizations that work we were cut off from by the mischievous forces
2:33:29
of experimental gods and now the opportunity has come to realign with the two cosmic forces yes it represent
2:33:36
really the Four Freedoms and also represents the higher aspirations of human consciousness of design and if
2:33:42
you're interested of course in knowing more about the defining that you talked about the 72 living divine aim for the
2:33:48
most high that's a really the names of God from everything from a Tiki Amim to rock mana which means the compassionate
2:33:55
ones jihad so those things are there one those names are there they're also on
2:34:00
our CD that's the generation of our CD sacred name sacred codes of Steve
2:34:06
Halpern a very famous New Age musician we also have some dr. Jack and I are
2:34:11
singing on it but we also had our other colleagues and friends there were really good singers to join us so it's a very
2:34:17
very powerful CD especially our Brazilian singers who are professional opera singers or our Mexican singers who
2:34:23
also come from different cultural backgrounds we believe there will be a global resonance sweeping around the
2:34:30
world with consciousness will be changed as our vibrations speed up people will have to make a decision to go with the
2:34:36
lower spiral or the hybrid spiral it be aware even though the world goes down the Mercado goes up God's glory is being
2:34:43
tested in our life our purpose and our ability to balance harmonic between true
2:34:49
science and true spirituality and by the way there is a whole chapter is written in the 1970s on the murk of an
2:34:55
experience and how our it's not necessarily a physical vehicle it's also a spiritual vehicle like you would see
2:35:02
in the eastern Sanskrit texts that you'd like the whole body is a mark of a type
2:35:07
of vehicle but it doesn't just go into the local dimensions the Merkava is unique because they can go into a
2:35:13
multi-dimensional reality outside of this local universe Wow so I get a
2:35:21
question that's probably going to take you guys off guard a little bit here in the last but it seems to me kind of
2:35:27
perfect that you two ended up with each other in this way do you think that
2:35:33
there was no coincidence right how did you two meet well I have to say you know the
2:35:40
Hawaiians also have a teaching that said no matter even if you bump into someone on the streets you know and that there's
2:35:46
a cosmic kind of design to all of your life especially when you work with spiritual dimensions that you're brought
2:35:53
together to the right place the right time the right people the right sharing and we thought were brought together by
2:35:59
my work as a young professor in studies of philosophy in science my wife was a
2:36:06
student at the time and we had to make incredible experiences in prayer and meditation and
2:36:11
research and her father was a gifted medical doctor inventor one of the first
2:36:19
space medicines my parents were always encouraging me to study all the other
2:36:24
things that go along with the Holy Scriptures in this context of culture history of the great musical linguistic
2:36:32
traditions all of these things came together in our life and our work and
2:36:37
dedication to what we believed to be the greater plan that God has coated with in every word of the sacred word of
2:36:44
Scripture plus giving us the opportunity the scholars to make commentary on what
2:36:50
we believe to be a plan of unfoldment that has placed this in mind with several astronauts some of the great
2:36:56
scientific investigators in the physical dimension some also with government explorations that were not inhibited or
2:37:03
shamed to simply say there is more out there than systems we the technologies there is the divine program preparing us
2:37:11
for a graduation so I meant out here took about three months before his experience and I could understand much
2:37:18
of what he was saying we're back in the 70s people didn't even know what a pyramid was but I want to say though
2:37:24
that things have really speeded up I think you're listening audience gnosis and the synchronicities of people
2:37:31
meeting one another or even meeting old friends that you haven't seen in a long time is really coming together there
2:37:38
seems to be something happening in the more spiritually aligned you are in listening to that still small voice the
2:37:45
more these things come to you and you're also protected so I it's very important
2:37:51
that people do acknowledge you know their potential of being able to have a
2:37:56
divine linkage and to be protected as well as given wisdom and knowledge as to
2:38:04
how their life should go so where do we go from here again I repeat every good and perfect thing from a Baba's been through Paris
2:38:11
Ross we must be patient we must be harmonious with our inner nature but
2:38:17
also we must be receptive to the signs and seasons that we're living in and not
2:38:23
Despero to go down with the lack of inspiration for the science are very clear even in the world of secular
2:38:30
science that there is a higher potential that's now being realized as we're moving into the age of the Holy Spirit
2:38:38
which means the outpouring of gifts and insights fully recognized by the great writers and the great mistakes
2:38:44
so just to recap our books again if you're really beginners the over self awakening that dr. Jack and I wrote if
2:38:50
you like Christian mysticism which is a little bit difficult and I know you've looked at the business Sophia if you
2:38:57
just get the pistol Sofia without our commentary it usually goes over people's heads so we've done it's like 900 this
2:39:03
is the faith it goes with wisdom the Sophia together they work together but ultimately the bottom part then the keys
2:39:10
of Enoch or if that's too much for you there's the intro to the keys which is 12 the chapters and as we were talking
2:39:15
about tonight probably summed up a lot in what we call the third light picture superscript it's one of the last 10 keys
2:39:23
of Enoch that I waited 40 years before I saw the signs what we have seen of
2:39:29
course in references to what the keys referenced in 1973 was the floating
2:39:34
pyramid it's the capstone teaching of God's grace and the coming of the banana beam
2:39:40
over the cities of the earth and also the reference to the earth 2004 which
2:39:45
ironically just a couple years ago was announced on CNN in The New York Times
2:39:50
and also in the Washington Post regarding the declassification of and I got documents the new medium of things
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that we've seen in the sky in 2004 exactly what I wrote about in 2000 1973
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so you mentioned disclosure we feel that disclosure although it could go back you know to Roswell or even way beyond that
2:40:11
probably people have had experiences for thousands of years but probably we'll go back to 2004 and the nimitz experience I
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think some people if you haven't talked about that or know about that just you can google with the nimitz experience
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off of Catalina Island if there was an answer chester nimitz what's than what the navy seeing of really what they call
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a tic tac which is an extraterrestrial spacecraft and so we come to
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to a fantastic time of thinking time to reconsider all of what we've said before
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we're at the begin of a great awesome change in consciousness with the begin
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of understanding God's Word and all it's refreshing insights of a higher wisdom we're also the time of recognizing that
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greater truths are being destroyed upon us in Acts chapter 2 fines and seasons
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of environmental change also in the New Testament book of Jude where we are being prepared for things that will be
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shaking at the imagination of the rational minds but in some unique way
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the super rationality the higher mind is being activated it is clear to the signs and seasons that we are being prepared
2:41:22
for a much greater experience of life in quantum physics tells us there's infinite possibility so never choose
2:41:29
just the negative one realizes many more possibilities for every one of us to experience realize you are the top
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immaculate the Holy Spirit's and you have this great opportunity yet
2:41:41
remaining in this country to take the higher path also recognize Arkansas
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according to the keys of Enoch is in that sacred belt a faith fabric and family in the Midwest that will see a
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harbinger of change Wow well as an Arkansas as it closes place
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of faith courage as well as new should we say experience and invention
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fantastic that's cool to know so yeah that's right in the heart of where I am I'm at the very tip of the
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deep south here and I'm ready for some change actually here that would be great
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there's some beautiful places here to look but this has been the such a fascinating conversation I know that I
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will dig deeper into you guys's work and both y'all's work actually and I really really appreciate you coming on the show
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it's been such an informative and compelling broadcast tonight thank you so much we appreciate this very much the
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image of the dove over North America in the keys of Enoch is found and you can
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see the Heartland is key for the Dove so anyway that's the case of Enoch is amazing rigazzi
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over your heads and of your hearts and make compassion rain within your life as
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if you just joined the program go back and have a replay of the podcast we're
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making Thank You jobs is pleasure being with you yeah expand it was fabulous having you guys on the broadcast thank
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you so much god bless to everybody out there and can
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continue your path show with the great programs you're doing thank you I really appreciate it all right guys that was a
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dr. JJ and Desiree heard talk make sure you go check out the website keys of enoch dot org and future science org
2:43:30
fascinating book section I gotta say like I really have touched on a lot of
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this stuff during the show during what we've talked about and 400 and some episodes we've talked about a lot of
2:43:42
this stuff and it's really cool especially this week to have guests on or we can see where a lot of these these
2:43:49
things are tying in together so many people want to throw out ancient scripture as if it's really irrelevant
2:43:55
and it's not it's there for a reason it's been with us since the beginning of time there's something a message that's
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been trying to be delivered to us since the beginning of time and it's only those I believe they can see through the
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lines they can look and read between the lines that really want to know and are striving for truth spiritually that will
2:44:15
find it and I have to believe and I really do believe at the bottom of my heart that it's been put there
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purposefully that way so that when you do seek you'll find and eventually as it
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states and some of these scriptures that everything that is hidden is going to be revealed and I guess maybe we should ask
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ourselves are we ready for that and I think most of us are and we want to be
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ready for that and I believe that the work of these two that were on here tonight will definitely help us get
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ready for that and I really appreciate all of you that came on the broadcast tonight to listen to take your time to
2:44:51
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